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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post

    How about where boston pizza now stands at 106 st and jasper ave ??
    That would be perfect. How much longer will the owners just sit on their land and do nothing with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
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    How about where boston pizza now stands at 106 st and jasper ave ??
    That would be perfect. How much longer will the owners just sit on their land and do nothing with it?
    Probably the entire block has several different owners, it is such a waste of land as it stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MylesC View Post
    The podium is their first building. I think it's very cool that they preserved their past in that way.
    maybe this could get moved to a facadism thread?

    although in this case the urban edges/street interaction are not terribly well executed. the original facade has no entry presence (and it's actually very easy to just walk right past the main entry as a result) and the building's best features are contained behind the upper levels of the facade (which was hollowed out and had floors removed and not replaces to get height) is designed to keep people in with a courtyard at the second level which is quite lovely for those that work in the building but is post security in a post 911 world and inaccessible to anyone else. the cascading water feature with the skewed escalators is very cool when it's running but kills the space when it's not. to me the whole thing seemed quite forced although pieces of it are quite lovely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrellinyvr View Post
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    How about where boston pizza now stands at 106 st and jasper ave ??
    That would be perfect. How much longer will the owners just sit on their land and do nothing with it?
    Probably the entire block has several different owners, it is such a waste of land as it stands.

    no idea but that's a good question about this land ???
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    Let's not get too carried away.

    Something much simpler and more effective as infill, given what we've already got:




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    Love the first example, like the second, third maybe it would grow in on me.

    The first example though it seems to me I recognize as a low income building on Hastings Street in Vancouver's downtown eastside. The units were extremely small about 250 square feet basically What they call in Vancouver SRO's. Basically a dorm type room with ä "kitchen" and bath.

    But the general idea i will agree on something more human scaled but with larger units.

    Though this type of housing would work very well in the Quarters.

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    ^Well, I picked the third because -- color scheme aside -- its background looks a lot like what we've got downtown.

    (1) is Seattle, (2) is Buffalo, (3) is Denver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    ^Well, I picked the third because -- color scheme aside -- its background looks a lot like what we've got downtown.

    (1) is Seattle, (2) is Buffalo, (3) is Denver.
    Good point in regards to 3, Picture 1 Then Vancouver has copied Seattle with that structure, doing some more thinking there is also a Youth Shelter on E Pender that has almost the exact same style with small balcony's and dorm type rooms.

    but if it works in those cities something like that could work here as well.

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    On a recent trip to UofT downtown campus, I saw this being built:

    http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/expansion/newbuilding.htm

    Love it. Love the integration of old and new. Love the open grand staircase through the middle. Love the atrium. Love the lawn on the rooftop patio. Wonder why every single student space in every university building is confined to the basement. At least they have an open air sub garde space.

    Would love it here if we had any old heritage buildings remaining here.

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    maybe what we need is a few more parkades???





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    Eco office building in Dubai called 'Synergy':


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    ^I call it an array of randomly stacked Kitty kennels

    but what do I know, it's art

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    Quote Originally Posted by glasshead View Post
    ^I call it an array of randomly stacked Kitty kennels

    but what do I know, it's art
    In the park across the street there is a large sculpture of a "poop scoop" for the liiter box.

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    Very nice.

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    I like this one.
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    I would like to see some buildings done in a more classical style, like the new symphony hall in Nashville built in 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherme...ymphony_Center
    Someday I will figure out how to post pictures but follow the link. This would look incredible on Churchill Square instead of the Winspear.

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    /\should have known

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    hmm...

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    I don't really think a neoclassical building is appropriate in place of Windspear, unless you plan on demoing just about every other building facing Churchill Square, including City Hall.

    It'd be like a giant marble sore thumb.
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    I only mentioned Winspear as this is a symphony hall, I have nothing against it. There is no architectural cohesion to the square anyway (Chancery Hall - AGA) so I think that really anything goes. Churchill Square isn't my point though, we bemoan the loss of our heritage buildings and clamour for whatever is in style today. We could be building timeless structures instead. I particularly think something classical would be an excellent choice for the new museum. Especially if they do decide to build it near the legislature grounds.

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    Comcast type tower on the staples lot


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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph60 View Post
    I would like to see some buildings done in a more classical style, like the new symphony hall in Nashville built in 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherme...ymphony_Center
    Someday I will figure out how to post pictures but follow the link. This would look incredible on Churchill Square instead of the Winspear.
    That works for Nashville as that city has a civic tradition of recreating "Classical Greek Architecture" have a look at the Tennesee State Capitol Building and thier Parthenon. Also being a "Southern" city it kind of works better, very antebellum and all that.

    Edmonton is far newer and therefore or civic buildings tend to be for good or ill "contemporary"

    As posted by noodle you would have to recreate all of Churchill Square and then I suspect the end product would look very "Disneyesque" at the very least.

    With the AGA, City Hall,Citadel, Winspear setting the tone with modern. Classical would be a jarring contrast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph60 View Post
    I only mentioned Winspear as this is a symphony hall, I have nothing against it. There is no architectural cohesion to the square anyway (Chancery Hall - AGA) so I think that really anything goes. Churchill Square isn't my point though, we bemoan the loss of our heritage buildings and clamour for whatever is in style today. We could be building timeless structures instead. I particularly think something classical would be an excellent choice for the new museum. Especially if they do decide to build it near the legislature grounds.
    That cost $123.5 million to build. Imagine the outcry from you and the rest of the fiscal conversative St. Albert taxpayers if we were to build that here!
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    I like trump tower toronto because it is mixed with hotel and condo

    so this tower is in between 2 office towers


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    SDM, I appreciate that you're joking but the art gallery cost $86 million (which I strongly support)and really isn't half the building.
    Being fiscally conservative doesn't make you cheap. We are building public buildings with 50 year lives (Rexall, Milner Library, Old City Hall, etc.) We would be way better off to spend double or triple the money on something timeless that will last 500 years than we are building something trendy that lasts fifty.
    As far as things looking Disneyesque, the AGA is a perfect example. I like the building and think it looks cool but I think in 50 years it will look extremely dated.
    I'm sorry but shiny glass towers all look the same to me and very few age gracefully. I was in Chicago a year ago and the Sears Tower (or whatever they call it now) looked like a dump.
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    Actually this style of building would be appropriate in the Legislature area. If the province is to build a new museum a design similar to this would blend very well and help add to the look of the entire area.
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    All kidding aside Ralph, a structure like that at Churchill Square would be a nice replacement for what was lost before - old courthouse, Carnegie Library. Perhaps a new Milner library?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Comcast type tower on the staples lot
    I am actually starting to get bored with smooth glass walls no matter how shiny and colourful... I would love to see buildings with so features, balconies, terraces, etc. Something to catch the eye as it slides past all that glass.

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    It doesn't really fit in the definition of architecture but I'd like to see more creative works like this one in Vancouver. Hey if we can justify baseball bats why not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Comcast type tower on the staples lot
    I am actually starting to get bored with smooth glass walls no matter how shiny and colourful... I would love to see buildings with so features, balconies, terraces, etc. Something to catch the eye as it slides past all that glass.


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    ^haha... well played and yes, i too love the balconies.

    However, there is something amazing about a 40+ crisp glass scraper at night that just illuminates a city and acts as a beacon of progress.

    I do agree if we had 20 more i would complain, but 1-2 more would be nice:>
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    Hell yea... that building is super sexy.

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    Works in Lebanon but would be very "COOL" in our climate

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    This was recently proposed for North York (Toronto):



    It's maybe a bit bulky, but I like the style and think it could work very well here.
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    the one on the right looks a lot like "epcor wrought residential" and swapping the crown for a hat (which is not a bad thing )...
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    that would be so awesome on the commonwealth lands
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    or aurora

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    ^we need to fill current downtown holes, not current holes
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    close enough. if new epcor and the rest of stationlands is downtown, so is aurora (the area behind proposed arena or did I get the name wrong).

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    I like these renderings of the resurrected One Bloor East proposal for Toronto now renamed Number One Bloor, especially with the terraced base and roof scaping.









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    this condo is perfect on where boston pizza is now stands on jasper ave and 106 st area.

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    weird design building looks like letter W

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    this condo is perfect on where boston pizza is now stands on jasper ave and 106 st area.



    It's not terrible, but seems way too busy, plus this colour scheme is way overdone here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RTA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    this condo is perfect on where boston pizza is now stands on jasper ave and 106 st area.



    It's not terrible, but seems way too busy, plus this colour scheme is way overdone here.
    it can change the colors to fit the type that people wanted to see.
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    very nice condo that should be built here

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    how about on stationlands ??



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    please god no 'vegas' inspired designs here... gah!
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    ^
    Common, don't you want to give High Level a run for its money?

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    I hate boring design and I like cool ones at downtown !
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    jag - i think you should call up TNP and ask for a job, they would love your suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    jag - i think you should call up TNP and ask for a job, they would love your suggestions.


    Nah , they will have to do it without me and I only send suggestion to them that's it
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    I can't remember the last time I agreed 3 for 3 with you Ian. Nicely done.
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    ^i am trying to align with your thoughts.
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    I'd love something like this around Omega on 100ave/105st


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    please god no 'vegas' inspired designs here... gah!
    Gives a new meaning to "What happens in Vegas STAYS in Vegas!"

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    Out of the three examples IanO, I like the first one the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darrellinyvr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    please god no 'vegas' inspired designs here... gah!
    Gives a new meaning to "What happens in Vegas STAYS in Vegas!"
    hahahaha... EXACTLY!
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    Regina's new office tower u/c.... now compare this to some proposals here... *cough*ironwood* cough*

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    I like it! pays homage to Regina's twin towers that exist already that have that slanted look.
    Though too many of them could make the core look like a bunch of funhouse mirrors!

    I notice they are in the background of the rendering so i'm guessing that it's either the same developer or a new part to the present complex?

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    Podiums with these... or these by themselves


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    ^Not at all to be negative (that's really nice, actually), but the vegetation and the sky make much of the scene in the last one.

    Under the Alberta sunlight and dust, that building would look scarcely different from the Venetian contraption at 104 and 112. Notice I said look -- despite the obvious difference in materials.

    There is row housing, about 20 to 25 years old, at the bottom of Bellamy Hill south of Rossdale Road, that is greatly overlooked and fits Edmonton's climate, vegetation, and traditional building style extremely well. I bring them up in terms of colouring as much as shape, because we have no luxurian growth, but over times tress rise and form a canopy through which the bright sunlight filters -- which makes for a very different way of looking at everything.
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    So with the trim of some shrubbery and a change of lighting....

    brick facades and metal cladding turns to multi-coloured acrylic stucco; aluminum windows to white PVC; and street fronting entrances disappear in favour of garish cornices, awkward triangular balconies, and "italianate" terra cotta roofing?

    REALLY??

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    warehouse/quarters, yes please


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    ^ Awesome. I love wood. We need more wood.
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    That's beautiful.

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    Meh. Looks too "70s rec room" to me.
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    ^exactly why i wub it.

    Now where is my tiki bar shaped building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Meh. Looks too "70s rec room" to me.
    I happen to love my 70s rec room thankyouverymuch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    warehouse/quarters, yes please


    (http://mauleofamerica.com/ssp/2/seattle_057.jpg
    I don't like this one very much. It doesn't come together, for me. That's not really in keeping with your style, Ian. I didn't think you liked curves. They're harder to draw

    Some good ones you've posted here. You seem to have a fondness for what I, in my architectural ignorance, call "modular" design, which appears as if you could attach different pieces on like blocks. Or something. Anyway, I like that stuff, sort of post post-modern Mondrian if you will.

    As long as you don't start posting any of those World's Fair "bunny" buildings. I'm afraid someone might think it was a good idea, and we'd end up with an animal shaped building too. I know some thought they were cool, but most of the world's fair buildings make me want to vote against holding it here.
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    So simple, so seemingly impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Meh. Looks too "70s rec room" to me.
    I agree, its ugly as sin and will age horribly. It would fit in well with most Edmonton buildings though.

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    So simple, so seemingly impossible
    I know they had drawings made up for multiple configurations of the Uptown, including two heights and two podiums, one with townhouses. Unfortunately they weren't able to seal the deal on the last little walkup remaining and we got the 15 storey no-townhouse version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueline View Post
    pavlov would be proud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueline View Post
    pavlov would be proud
    i'm not sure... i doubt pavlov ever even dreamed of this:

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    Imagine a building like this on the staples site...


    (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...Paris_pic1.jpg)
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    Love to see something of this massing (mirrored) on the 104st/100ave NEC site.


    (http://www.themoderne.net/images/Mod...07RGBlarge.jpg
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    Imagination is good, but these are the unrealistic visions that make parking lots more likely.

    The first criterion of a building is always whether it is economically viable.

    Too many highrises in Edmonton act as surface vacuum cleaners.

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    ^economics are obviously part of the equation but good design is a key element and driver of sales, $/sqft, velocity of said development etc.

    I do not think these are in anyway 'unrealistic'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Imagine a building like this on the staples site...




    (http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images...Paris_pic1.jpg)
    I like it though to be honest it looks like a copy of what is known as the "Gherkin" in London and the tapered shape looks suspiciously like a bigger than life battery operated item one would find in a "Adult Boutique"
    How many double AA's would it take to turn on the lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Love to see something of this massing (mirrored) on the 104st/100ave NEC site.



    (http://www.themoderne.net/images/Mod...07RGBlarge.jpg
    Very Much so!

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    ^^yup... that has been its criticism and intrigue.
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    New condo going up in MTL... again, simple, square, kinda cool. Would love to see this on the lot beside 1st edmonton place.


    (http://pointenord.com/evolo/media/im...t-exterior.jpg)
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    Very clean and cool, Would also look good on Jasper and 107th but then any lot in the core being replaced by something like this would be nice.

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    How about a couple of these legends on sask. drive.... or in the quarters top of bank

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    ^

    are you purposely posting images of boring personified simply to get a reaction or...?

    no balconies, no spatial seperation (close enough to borrow a cup of sugar from your neighbor without having to visit his building from the look of it), no interface with the street, no public space, stick frame glazing between what appears to be exposed concrete building elements...
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    ^These are 2 of my most favorite apartment towers in the world thank you very much. You say boring, i say simple, clean, good looking in perpetuity.

    Yes the main floor would need some work and balconies cut out would be simple enough.
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    I would never buy a highrise condo without a balcony.
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    ^many many people like the thought of balconies but i know most of my friends in van or toronto do without and prefer an enclosed den (ie. more useable sqft).

    I thought i 'need' one, but with parkspace downtown I can do without if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    How about a couple of these legends on sask. drive.... or in the quarters top of bank


    I don't like it because it looks too much similar due to too square style design just like Telus towers.
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    What's a UW?
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