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    ^Urban Warehouse. 104st-109st from north of jasper to 104ave
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    124st and stony plain road

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    ^ Or how about Rossdale Flats
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    Warehouse area

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    ^These are 2 of my most favorite apartment towers in the world thank you very much. You say boring, i say simple, clean, good looking in perpetuity.

    Yes the main floor would need some work and balconies cut out would be simple enough.
    Ken just jealous you beat him to it. Or that he feels they need a couple of cupolas and poles on top I like them very Mies Van der Rohe. You do not need balonies on everything anyway most of them nowadays are so small all you can do is stand and have a smoke or go outside change your mind and go back inside.

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    "I like them very Mies Van der Rohe.è

    ...touches nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    warehouse/quarters, yes please

    I realized why this image has been lingering in my mind when memories of my parent's wood paneled rec room came to mind followed by errant thoughts of my first experiences in a sauna. Oh the horror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    "I like them very Mies Van der Rohe.è

    ...touches nose.
    he would never have put two towers that close together and that close to a neighbor and probably wouldn't have put the edges so close to the site edges either (particularly the main entry/approach edge). my guess is he would have held his nose on these two as copy cats that missed the mark along with missing the importance of context and relationships and function for those living in as well those living around the "architecture".
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    I love the minimalistic designs of these towers. I recently saw a doc on van der Rohe which explored the design of these buildings, the wall to ceiling views of Lake Michigan were amazing. Interestingly, van der Rohe never occupied any of the buildings he designed.

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    okay, now that i have egg all over my face i only have two things to add... one is not fit to post. the other would be that if mies is allowed to be wrong on occasion, then so am i...
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    Very Good Ian! LOL
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    to be frank....

    Ian maybe 3
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    The score is reflective of this match only not the series. LOL

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    How about this anywhere in the Warehouse area.... say the Healy lands!



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    That looks an awful lot like the evil stepchild of Illuminada & Uptown, with a fat townhouse base. Me likey.

    (I really want urban modern townhomes in Oliver, up to ~$700k to be built before I grow weary of my current apartment condo.)
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    More of these (millcreek flexhomes) around oliver, inglewood, westmount, rossdale, etc.


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    I'd like a 3rd floor, but that's getting there!
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    Some buildings I like going up in and around Regent Park in East Toronto... subsidized housing...


    (http://www.torontohousing.ca/webfm_send/5138)


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    More of these (millcreek flexhomes) around oliver, inglewood, westmount, rossdale, etc.


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    I know a spot where I'd like to see that:

    http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=e...,7.64,,0,18.34

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    Good one Ian. Anyone familiar with Regent Park knows how much this has transformed the neighborhood replacing the old institutional style low rise brick buildings. Would be good to see something like that in the Quarters.





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    ...or thoughtful site plans such as this?

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    I love this building addition from Winnipeg:


    tall grass prarie by dz_knight2003, on Flickr

    It's amazing what you can do for an older building - even one that is relatively devoid of architectural significance - with just a little creativity.

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    ^I have had thoughts of something like this for cladding the Milner Library although it is a bit dark.
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    ^ Mind you the photog really upped the contrast and dark tones, so it's probably not quite as dark in reality.
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    ^True. I think a blend of something like this and some slightly lighter faux stone would be nice.
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    ^ No, no faux stone. Real deal or nothing at all.
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    ^Bring it on, it can't begin soon enough.
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    Love Love Love Museum Tower finally going up in Dallas (only took 10yrs)

    Imagine this (podium revised for urban setting) on a signature site such as 104st/102ave or the commonwealth lands.


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    I don't like it much. Nothing to catch the eye. these smooth buildings to me are a bit dated now. Appropriate that it is 10 years late. It would have looked good then. Now? Give me the strange and the off-balance "what the...?" look.

    Check these out going up in, of all places, Mississauga: http://www.absolutecondos.com/ Buildings D and E in particular.

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    kinda reminds me of the Lipstick building in New York. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipstick_Building

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    Better image... yup, pretty dated and not good enough for here.


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    A modern version of the 'Milner' Building sans drive through and flowers...imagine it at 5pm in the winter casting its glow onto the block.


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    I like the new bigger version of the "Milner Building" you posted very midtown Manhattan. On Saturday strolling around the core I finally realized that the one block stretch of 104th St from Jasper to 100 Ave is kind of Cool. With the Milner Building, Holiday Inn Express, The former Credit Fonceir Building and even the ratty former Bay Parkade it is almost completely a 1960's street (Standard Life the exception) with all the midcentury styles.
    It would be nice to infill the vacant lot on 104th and 100Ave with something like your above post to reflect that and restoring the very retro parkade to respectability (for a parkade that is) It could be a small slice of 60's hipster architecture which would counterpoint the stretch of 104th north of Jasper.

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    Hamilton's new Farmer's market... WOW!!!


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    Is that a library in the upper levels? Living above a farmers market would be amazing.

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    Similar to the Millcreek ones, but more urban with potentially a live/work or commercial main use.


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    I'm beginning to think I might just have to find some suitable land and build a triplex/fourplex & keep a unit for myself.
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    For a minute, think what this would do for corner of 104st and 103ave (SW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Similar to the Millcreek ones, but more urban with potentially a live/work or commercial main use.


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    I much prefer this kind of significant external wood integration than the previous "rec room" rounded-corner example. And both come from Seattle it appears.
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    ^Agree about the wood treatment. In the previous example I don't like the vertical panels as they seem to clash with the horizontal ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Is that a library in the upper levels? Living above a farmers market would be amazing.
    Bulldozing the Milner Library and replacing it with something like that would be AWESOME. The combination of the "legitimate" Library patrons and Farmers Market traffic would negate the "street crowd" atmosphere around 102Ave and it would also historically link the old Market Square aspect that Churchill had so long ago.
    If you had the traffic that the 104th City Market and Strathcona Markets in Churchill Square the " black fleece hoody crowd" would move elsewhere since they no longer ruled the street.

    You could also have the market overspill into the square itself on Market Days in the summer.

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    Aqua: mixed use tower in Chicago:




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    ^Thanks for posting the images of Aqua. I wondered how they accomplished that wave effect.
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    ^
    From some angles, the waves look like afterthoughts or some sort of building upgrade run amok. From others, it looks great.

    Overall I really like this building.

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    this tower on the tricorp corner


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    Vaguely resembles the proposed design for the park at Jasper and 103rd doesn't it?

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    I know its from Toronto, but I like this "Ten reasons why Toronto is getting better all the time". I particularly like the inclusion of a playground at Downsview to bring back public space to an area and the beach. Hmmm, think we have talked about many of those same things here on C2E!

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    ^Floor to ceiling windows in a cold climate? Shouldn't there be portals instead?

    Hmmmmm...

    All kidding aside, I wonder what the heating costs would be like in comparison to a more conventional design.
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    ^depends on the glazing used.

    Higher performance glazing such as Visionwall's 4 element would do well, but if you went with a 2 element you might be regretting the cost/benefit ratio.
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    I would like to see something like this, Imagine how all the other Edmonton towers would be dwarfed by something like this.
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    ^ No. Just...no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post

    I would like to see something like this, Imagine how all the other Edmonton towers would be dwarfed by something like this.
    Well considering how Dubai has hit the skids with unfinished and empty towers everywhere and expats abandoning property and cars by flying home since by law debt is illegal. I'm sure the emirate would love to unload this at a bargain price. they may even include free shipping.


    Next question would Triple5 consider it for WEM and also is there enough pink stucco in Edmonton to reclad it to match most of Edmonton's design sensibilities......

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    Call me old-fashioned or simply old, but the pitiful attempts to reproduce natural forms in concrete and metal nauseate me.

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    I heard dubai's office vacancy rate is now around 40 % which is the highest in the world due to recession and is in serious trouble with huge debts right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    A few nice infill from Calgary...

    ...you are joking right? this looks like bad UK social housing circa late 60's - not even good in a retro sort of way. It may be your cup of tea, but when you've grown up around this kind of stuff it's utterly depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy8244 View Post
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    A few nice infill from Calgary...

    ...you are joking right? this looks like bad UK social housing circa late 60's - not even good in a retro sort of way. It may be your cup of tea, but when you've grown up around this kind of stuff it's utterly depressing.
    For once I'm in agreement.... I looks like it belongs in either the Gorbals or around the Red Road flats in Glasgow. I don't know how old it is but it's discolouring already.

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    ^I can see your points, but I like the dreariness of it.
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    In defence of Ian's choice, the grey color would look -- and bleach -- differently under our bright sunshine. The thing, though is that the building is made by being on a slope, at the exact small angle it is. And all our slopes are either too steep or nonexistent. Still, in the correct place I think it wouldn't look half bad at all.

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    Considering that it is located in Calgary the sunlight aspect would basically be the same as here. If it wasn't grey concrete/stucco or whatever it is I would not mind it myself. It looks like whoever built it ran out of cash on the exterior materials ran to Rona and found whatever they could on sale.

    The layout is decent, the major flaw to me is the exterior colour/materials choice. While Ian I respect your attraction to the dreariness aspect of it. I could not myself imagine coming home to that in depths of a dark/cold January at -25 thinking "I'm Home!" ugh. the various coloured front doors just don't liven it up enough.

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    ^There is a beauty in fog and mist. 'In fog, a vision of Grey...'
    I agree completely that if the finishing did not look so cheap, it would work very well.

    This is really brutalism without the concrete brut. And yes, it works -- in concrete.

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    Agree with the finish, but I think the colour choices on the door are one of it's saving graces. A very un-Alberta move to put hues like those on something as prominent as a windowless front door.
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    sort of looks like those truely lovely apartments on the north side of 104 ave and about 104 - 105 street
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    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    ^There is a beauty in fog and mist. 'In fog, a vision of Grey...'
    I agree completely that if the finishing did not look so cheap, it would work very well.

    This is really brutalism without the concrete brut. And yes, it works -- in concrete.
    Agreed,

    I like the site, the scale, the balance, almost all the detail. the only flaw is the the dull grey finish. and after living in both Vancouver, Glasgow dull and grey works very well if the finish isn't cheap. If they had used either some slate or similar stone It would have been 100% successful in my view. Also if perhaps they would have left the balconies "open" with steel railings that would have been a plus I think. And juniper/evergreen landscaping to soften things a bit. nuff said.

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    I will appease the peanut gallery.


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    Much better!

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    ....and only 4 times the cost.
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    ^Construction less land, or per-unit market value?

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    Me walking up to buy it.
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    ^Ah. Location? Or location? Or...

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    Downtown Vancouver vs Calgary infill.

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    ^that same unit built in oliver or kensington though would still be easily double-triple the other my guess.
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    The latter is what I'd like to move into in a few years, yet somehow I'm thinking I'll have to struggle to even find the former in Oliver in 2015
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    Atta Boy!

    Much better. Looks like the development on the left side of the north end of the Cambie St Bridge. In 2006 my partner and I were looking at a townhome unit along the pedestrian walkway linking the bridge with Expo Boulevard. then it was $675K for a 3 level two bed townhome (resale) that included a private enclosed two car garage in the underground parkade with private access (the coolest feature of the unit) The deal breaker was the $700 a month condo fee's which seemed at tad high at the time in comparison to other units in the Concord-Pacific Lands.

    But architecturally that is the way the Calgary infill could have been done.

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    ^likely beach crescent or there abouts.
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    Stuff like this around whyte, 124st, and in the warehouse district.


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    ^that would fit some of the recent construction on 124 quite well. I'm thinking of the newish building close to the Boston Pizza.

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    My god yes please along 124st or in rossdale


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    ^where in Rossdale? That's a main-street shot. Would have to be along 97 Avenue -- say SW corner of 105 Street -- or bellamy hill, right at the bottom; would do wonders for where it starts at rossdale road -- again at 97 ave, or at 103 street. Something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Stuff like this around whyte, 124st, and in the warehouse district.


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    4 or 5 of those in various styles along 124th from SPR to 111th Ave would do wonders for the street,

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    My god yes please along 124st or in rossdale


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    Something like it in the grassy field that doubles as a parking lot next to Telus Field perhaps.... the above style even mimics the baseball stadiums archtitecture.

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    ^yup... just north of telus taking up some of the parking.
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    i just noticed this place for sale last week. it's like 1 block from my house and i wasn't even aware of it. a very nice rebuild. the foundation is original from the 1953 bungalow. the garage is original but was reclad to match, with new roof trusses.
    it's a bit minimalist for my tastes, but nice to see good design like this popping up in Holyrood. i think it and strathearn are going to see a lot of this stuff in the future.

    as i understand it, it was done by a designer/developer who lives in holyrood. who knows, they may be a poster here!

    http://www.holyroodmodern.com

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    ^ Ooh, funny you mention this, I incidentally walked nearby it just a few days ago and noticed this place. I didn't stop to get a better look (though maybe I should have), but just my glancing impression of it was that it was a very nice looking modern house. Maybe I'll have to swing by again and get a closer look.
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    Now that is a sexy-looking house! Thanks for the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTA View Post
    ^ Ooh, funny you mention this, I incidentally walked nearby it just a few days ago and noticed this place. I didn't stop to get a better look (though maybe I should have), but just my glancing impression of it was that it was a very nice looking modern house. Maybe I'll have to swing by again and get a closer look.
    we stopped by the open house yesterday, which was surprisingly very busy. may have just been neighbours checking it out (like we were).

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    Thanks for the link as well.
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    Oh heck yes
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    Like the house for the most part but I don't care for the bathrooms which could use some warmth. All those tiles make it look a bit institutional.
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    I know this has nothing to do with Edmonton but It I liked it so much I thought I would pass the link on.

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    A Expo 2017 cauldron perhaps? After all Expo 67 had one I believe.
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    EPCOR Center for the preforming arts is proposed for Calgary's downtown.
    This building will make Edmonton look cheap.













    Source: http://www.bingthomarchitects.com/#/all projects/56/
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    Interesting but considering the site is the same as the present Epcor Centre for the Performing Arts which was built in the 1980's as the Jack Singer Performing Arts Centre. That would entail a huge upheaval of space for the city's arts communities in regards to demolition, renovation then construction. etc etc. I think even Calgary would be wary of the cost.

    Looking at the Bing Thom site it looks like the 3 performance spaces are left pretty much alone while just glitzing up the lobbies/public/exterior spaces.

    Though I remember when I went to Mount Royal in the 80's as a class we took a tour of the then new Jack Singer Centre and while impressive for the time a lot of Calgarians complained the acoustics were poor audience wise for such a state of the art complex. they had to do a major upgrade in the main Jack Singer Hall due to so many complaints from season ticket holders and musicians from the Philharmonic.

    They have their undies in a twist over a proposed airport road tunnel under the new runway being constructed at YYC which was "the" election issue in the civic election and which is far more pressing an issue than this.
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    Ȁll that is meaningless and tasteless bling.

    The only thing that really matters is acoustics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    Ȁll that is meaningless and tasteless bling.

    The only thing that really matters is acoustics.
    Well Calgary does like it's tasteless and meaningless bling!
    But how will it look in say 20 or 30 years? Just in time for Bing Thom to do another massive reno on the taxpayers dime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrellinyvr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    Ȁll that is meaningless and tasteless bling.

    The only thing that really matters is acoustics.
    Well Calgary does like it's tasteless and meaningless bling!
    But how will it look in say 20 or 30 years? Just in time for Bing Thom to do another massive reno on the taxpayers dime.
    Right around the time we'll be looking to replace the 'Aurora' on the AGA with something that actually works, architecturally speaking?
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