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    Well there may be an Impark there now but keep our fingers crossed and the direction that the downtown core is moving in we might actually see something fill that space sooner than later.
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    So I driving downtown yesterday and am very glad to see that construction has been happening along the entire 108st all the way to 104 ave. As well I noticed that they have poured the curbs for the first central feature on the block closest to the Legislature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    So I driving downtown yesterday and am very glad to see that construction has been happening along the entire 108st all the way to 104 ave. As well I noticed that they have poured the curbs for the first central feature on the block closest to the Legislature.
    Although nice to see work, it would also be nice to see progress that doesn't advance at a glacial pace. The block closest to the leg was pretty much done last year. It has taken them all summer so far to pour that 'central feature'.

    This and the federal building have to be the slowest project going.

    Throw the undercutting second rate contractor that is doing the jasper ave/central station overhaul and you get a great picture of government managed construction projects. Its taken them 3 months just to get the pavement off the top!

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    Quote Originally Posted by micmac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    So I driving downtown yesterday and am very glad to see that construction has been happening along the entire 108st all the way to 104 ave. As well I noticed that they have poured the curbs for the first central feature on the block closest to the Legislature.
    Although nice to see work, it would also be nice to see progress that doesn't advance at a glacial pace. The block closest to the leg was pretty much done last year. It has taken them all summer so far to pour that 'central feature'.

    This and the federal building have to be the slowest project going.

    Throw the undercutting second rate contractor that is doing the jasper ave/central station overhaul and you get a great picture of government managed construction projects. Its taken them 3 months just to get the pavement off the top!

    ...so you haven't been inside Central then, huh?

    Not to mention they've also taken out the center medians and the big ugly green shelters/utilities boxes, had to string up additional lights, work around the constant stream of pedestrians, etc.

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    ...so you haven't been inside Central then, huh?

    Not to mention they've also taken out the center medians and the big ugly green shelters/utilities boxes, had to string up additional lights, work around the constant stream of pedestrians, etc.[/QUOTE]

    I was speaking to the above grade work. Seems rather slow for some demolition work.

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    ^because there is more to it than just ripping off a layer of asphalt.

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    I go through that tunnel every day on my way to work. I have no wish for them to sacrifice safety in the interests of providing more of a view for their above grade work. Right now, it looks like going through a mechano set and I can only wonder what's above my head.

    Also, I have a view from my office of the above ground stuff and they seem to be making decent progress on it. And I speak as someone who is impatient to be able to traverse that area on foot without playing in traffic.

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    Point taken.

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    Actually they have picked up the pace on 108st considerably from last year. I agree it was glacial at best but now it looks like they are actually trying to get all of it done at a reasonable rate.
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    It appears as though it should be completed by the end of the 2012 season... which is what they intended.
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    I don't know what to say about the federal building but I think I feel safe to say that if they had worked a bit, or actually a whole lot harder last year on the roadway they wouldn't have been behind schedule this year.
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    I saw the new traffic light at Capital Boulevard and 100 Avenue. Quite impressive.
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    Not a great pic, but you can see the new light installations along Capital Blvd., looking good.


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    Here are a few pictures I took the other day of the progress on Capital Blvd.












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    Oh by the way too. Can someone change the thread name to something more like Capital Boulevard/108st. | Under Construction
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    Looks awesome so far, never thought I would say this, but those are some sexy light standards lol.

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    Agreed. Looks fantastic. I look forward to seeing more nice streetscapes develop downtown as projects move forward like the arena and Jasper Ave.

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    Looks like the 108 Street / 100 Ave intersection is now finished, with re-paving on 100 Ave completed and the swanky new traffic lights up and running, too. Can't wait for 100 Ave to be open again!

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    I just wish they threw some extra labour at this for it was to have been completed this fall all of the way to 104ave, but given that they might have another month or so left this season, it is a shame that we will have yet another project so far behind.*

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    It's too bad all the frontage along 108st is so recessed and dark. What an uninviting strip. I sure hope operators in those buildings start making use of the improvements they've been given.
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    That is the hope/intent.
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    ^^ The patio at Good Earth is a great example of what can be done. Nicely landscaped - very inviting.
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    ^Public House's new patio will add to the st. as will the planned Norquest Expansion.
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    Be better if Public House lowered the fence though. Fence mind you, not bar.
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    Dialogs expansion should also help some, and also remove some parking.

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    This thread needs to be merged with http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum...ad.php?t=24974
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    ^That thread is in regards to the digital sign and the development of those lots. This is a different project.

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    This thread is about the entire 108st all the way from the Legislature to MacEwan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    It's too bad all the frontage along 108st is so recessed and dark. What an uninviting strip. I sure hope operators in those buildings start making use of the improvements they've been given.
    They may in fact have plans to rennovate; how do you propose every business achieve this while construction of this street is currently active? Do you have a magic wand we don't know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
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    It's too bad all the frontage along 108st is so recessed and dark. What an uninviting strip. I sure hope operators in those buildings start making use of the improvements they've been given.
    They may in fact have plans to rennovate; how do you propose every business achieve this while construction of this street is currently active? Do you have a magic wand we don't know about?
    I do. It's quite impressive. /sarcasm

    Are some of them going to renovate? If you are aware of any plans in place, let us know. It's fair to assume that over time it can and will happen, however until that happens I'm lamenting that we'll have a great street with no interaction from area tenants. Mostly pointing out how up until recently there's either been very little foresight into this kind of thing or planning restrictions forbade tenants from doing so.
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    The street is starting to look very good. It's too bad that they didn't make more drastic improvements to the intersections, though. Bulbs at intersection wouldn't take away any driving lanes or legal perking spots. And I wonder at the narrower sidewalks/wider carriageway at the mid block crosswalk/feature locations. Sure the feature takes some space, but at least on the completed block there is no parking in that section so there's really just one extra-wide lane in those locations.

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    I think the blocks south of Jasper will be largely complete, and I hope that the block between Jasper and 102 will be done before winter. Still, a change for the better.

    Looking forward to Canada Day 2013, with Capital Boulevard largely complete and the Federal Public Building renovated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I think the blocks south of Jasper will be largely complete, and I hope that the block between Jasper and 102 will be done before winter. Still, a change for the better.

    Looking forward to Canada Day 2013, with Capital Boulevard largely complete and the Federal Public Building renovated.
    I would hope that the province and the city use the new areas to it's utmost by even having programing and events take place in the new spaces.

    I also wonder what kind of spaces for bicycle parking is going to be provided along 108st.
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    No bike or vehicle parting is to be provided
    This is a walking area
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    Right.
    Besides the parallel parking that lines both sides of 108st, you mean?

    And the 60% of the whole right-of-way dedicated to cars?

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    No bicycle parking? Please tell me this isn't the case.
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    I don't think that there is any in the design, but that might be for the better. If it were designed in it would have been a rack taking up the still limited pedestrian space.
    As an afterthought it will likely be on-street, taking whole former parking spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    As an afterthought it will likely be on-street, taking whole former parking spots.
    Which would be perfectly fine with me. Hmmmm which were the councillors that were pushing for the bike rack spots on Whyte ave.
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    I'm sure that there could be provision for bike spaces at many locations. They wouldn't take up too much space.

    One thing I saw in Ottawa (Byward Market) was a bike rental station. I'm sure these could catch on here in the future.
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    My guess is there will be bike parking, but as with most projects, street furniture is installed last.
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    do any of the buildings along the stretch have plans to retrofit their bases for retail/shops?

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    There are a bunch of paving stones set up on Jasper Ave at 108 Street, which I can only assume are for 108 Street. Hopefully at least the paving of the whole stretch from 99 to 104 Ave gets completed this year, even if the centrepieces don't. None of the fancy new streetlights have been installed yet, either.

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    How about north of Jasper ave? How much further have things progressed?
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    I think the block north of Jasper has the concrete poured, and the 102-103 Ave/Norquest block has sidewalks poured, when I walked by there last Thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    No bicycle parking? Please tell me this isn't the case.
    It very likely is the case. I work a block over, on 107 street, and when my building re-did its exterior it also eliminated the bicycle parking that used to be outside of the building. Which is a pain in the posterior, let me tell you! I petitioned the city to put up those circle/slash lockups but they said no. I petitioned the building to put the rack back, or just relocate it somewhere convenient, no dice there either. They put the bike rack in the parking garage under the building but won't give anyone access to the parking garage unless they qualify for a car parking spot. After trying to explain, numerous times, that the reason I want to park my bicycle is so that I don't HAVE to drive, and utterly failing, I gave up. Now I lock it to the lovely decorative benches outside with which they replaced the racks.

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    ^ Dumb moves by both the city and your employer. Unfortunately, the lack of action from the city doesn't surprise me. It took years to get any bike parking at all at Churchill square, and it is still inadequate for major events. Hopefully the fancy new islands in the middle of 108 St won't come at the expense of space for bicycles (both for riding and parking).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bibliophreak View Post
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    No bicycle parking? Please tell me this isn't the case.
    It very likely is the case. I work a block over, on 107 street, and when my building re-did its exterior it also eliminated the bicycle parking that used to be outside of the building. Which is a pain in the posterior, let me tell you! I petitioned the city to put up those circle/slash lockups but they said no. I petitioned the building to put the rack back, or just relocate it somewhere convenient, no dice there either. They put the bike rack in the parking garage under the building but won't give anyone access to the parking garage unless they qualify for a car parking spot. After trying to explain, numerous times, that the reason I want to park my bicycle is so that I don't HAVE to drive, and utterly failing, I gave up. Now I lock it to the lovely decorative benches outside with which they replaced the racks.
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    Ridiculous. The hypocrisy is astounding. All this studying and preaching about moving away from cars on one hand, then they completely crap the bed with the other. Either build bike infrastructure or don't and move on to something else.
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    I walked along 108 Street and found:

    (1) 100 Ave-Jasper has all the bricks down on the street, except around the island in the middle.

    (2) Crews were laying bricks from Jasper-102 Ave.

    (3) The pavement from 102-103 Ave was being jackhammered and taken away.

    (4) All sidewalks were poured, except for 103-104 Avenue. I anticipate that this segment will be done next spring.
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    Taken on Sunday Oct 14, 2012













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    ^great photos. I'm am very excited for this street.
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    pavers in, sanded and tamped all the way to 102
    amazing to watch how they do this
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    ^This seems fast, but I guess pavers are the last things to go in.
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    from the concrete base up all steps mechanized
    Spread sand,level with fall,tamp, pick up and place a 4 x 4 foot cluster of pavers. sand and brush in crack fill sand and done
    all machines
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    Love seeing this street evolve over the last year on my way to and from work!

    Are they perhaps trucking to get it done before the frost sets in?

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    hope that they are at l;east opening up the 102 and south legs of 108
    This has really impacted some of the business' as well as traffic
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    Hope they are giving some thought to having those traffic control fixtures changed to something other than black boxes mounted on new brushed silver poles.
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    Hope they are giving some thought to having those traffic control fixtures changed to something other than black boxes mounted on new brushed silver poles.
    I agree...I was along 108 heading for lunch yesterday and had a good look at the changes. There are some disconnects like the one you point out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverWalker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry N View Post
    Hope they are giving some thought to having those traffic control fixtures changed to something other than black boxes mounted on new brushed silver poles.
    I agree...I was along 108 heading for lunch yesterday and had a good look at the changes. There are some disconnects like the one you point out.

    I just fired off an inquiry to Traffic Operations asking if these are temporary. They are usually pretty good getting back. When I receive an answer I will post.
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    Chrome and black look good together...



    I am more worried about the old wooden Light posts.... I hope they are replaced with trees!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Chrome and black look good together...



    I am more worried about the old wooden Light posts.... I hope they are replaced with trees!?!?!
    Drool....At least those are attractive. Someone has got to have something available that are more into the late 20th century than those black fixtures that they are using.
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    ^ what black fixtures are you guys talking about? Is there a picture somewhere?

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    I really hope that this, and the LRT, bring some life into this area. Interesting to see Capital place in the photos. I used to live there, it always amazed me that there was all this development west of 109 (Railtown, Oliver, and similar), but that these "warehouse" lands are pretty much a wasteland. If anything I would have thought east of 108 should have been more desirable (as closer to the core for urban living).

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    Well I think 109st. was always sort of the divider, west of 109 was residential and east of 109 was commercial industrial. Now that the downtown is changing that divider, even though still there is less noticable, especially once this pedestrian orriented street gets fully developed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by micmac View Post
    ^ what black fixtures are you guys talking about? Is there a picture somewhere?

    The first picture in post 251 shows the new street brushed aluminum poles with a standard black traffic control fixture mounted on it.
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    They look pretty good. I don't get the complaining.
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    ^^ Thanks.

    ^Looks good to me too. Ah well, matter of opinion.

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    Well I had a quick look on a google search for pictures of traffic lights and you have two options basically, black as we have it there right now or yellow. If it is a choice between those two colours I'll pick black. I could be wrong but I don't doubt there must also be some sort of regulations governing the designs of traffic lights, especially the face of the lights.
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    ^ Agreed. Edmonton's black traffic light backgrounds look much better than Calgary's Big Bird yellow on any type of pole.

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    More delays:
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...886/story.html

    The grand pedestrian-friendly Capital Boulevard being created on 108th Street from MacEwan University to the legislature has also been held up by scheduling conflicts and weather.

    Although it was supposed to be finished this year, it probably won’t be done until the middle of next summer, said Paul Szczepanski, head of arterial roads design and construction.
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    Middle of next summer? wtf.
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    ^They've been working 7 days a week on the roadwork. I'm guessing it's everything else that will take time...always the finishing details
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    Too bad, it would have been nice if they could have completed this project this year. Although I'd really like to know why it will take all the way till next summer. Are they going to wait till mid to late spring before starting up again?
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    They haven't even started north of 103 Ave, so I'm not at all surprised.

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    Last time I went by 108 Street, a few of the lights on the fancy new light fixtures had been installed. Looked very sexy! Hopefully they can at least finish a good portion of them this year for the winter.

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    When will they do the (inteirm) opening of the Jasper to 102 ave stretch ?
    Enough already
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    Frpom what I saw today - the section from 100-102 avenues, while not finished, looks as if it could be opened to traffic until work resumes in the Spring.

    Unless, more work will be undertaken still in this construction season.
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    Drove thru this street from Jasper turning towards the building with the dome, currently covered with tarps. I think it will look awesome in the summer.

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    ^ also known as the Legislature...

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    ^ also known as the Legislature...
    Oh sorry lol. I'm new. The legislature would probably look iconic along that street. Does Capital Boulevard have the potential to be like Robson in Van?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn View Post
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    ^ also known as the Legislature...
    Oh sorry lol. I'm new. The legislature would probably look iconic along that street. Does Capital Boulevard have the potential to be like Robson in Van?
    At this point no... there really isn't any retail on the street. But give it time. We'll have to see if these streetscape improvements encourage a newfound retail presence on 108 Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    ^ also known as the Legislature...
    Oh sorry lol. I'm new. The legislature would probably look iconic along that street. Does Capital Boulevard have the potential to be like Robson in Van?
    At this point no... there really isn't any retail on the street. But give it time. We'll have to see if these streetscape improvements encourage a newfound retail presence on 108 Street.
    Never say never but never.

    Robson is so different for so many reasons.

    108st does have the chance to become an elegant and somewhat active street though... but more importantly a wonderful linkage and nod to its ends.
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    So anyone see any work resume on this project yet?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Negative. Likely a few more weeks.
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    Looks like some electrical work going on today. Backhoe and HydroVac truck across from Norquest.

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    rectangular black stone pylons falling like dominos
    Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

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    ?? oh?? do tell, what exactly is happening?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueline View Post
    rectangular black stone pylons falling like dominos
    Criptic postings **** me off so just come out with what your going on about did something break that shouldn't have or what?

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    I think he's talking about the bollards along the curb. I have already noticed a few of them are not quite vertical.

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    Cryptic eh ?
    Sorry to once again offendi
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    Ya quite a few have been damaged. While I like the clean look of the dark granite bollards, I think they may need some reflective tape so motorists and cleaning crews can see them in the winter when buried by snow.
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    or just put steel bollards with granite paint and see how driving improves.
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    how good would it be to have all the buildings fronting 108th have their first few floors retrofitted to house retail. Then it would not only be a nice street, but actually offer something along it.

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    Or.... just food truck it up.
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    ^Food truck boulevard destination/attraction. Pleasant odors of freshly prepared foods wafting through the corridors of downtown.
    Did my dog just fall into a pothole???

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    i thought it was meant to be a dignified boulevard, a mall of sorts to the legislature - the idea of food trucks along it devalue it - That is a personal opinion of mine.

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    While food trucks are a good idea the problem is that they can move, leaving the street with a dearth of retail. Should we not include dining choices in the arena district simply because we could fill it with food trucks?

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    I think that the changes on 108 Street will be organic, much like 104 Street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I think that the changes on 108 Street will be organic, much like 104 Street.
    Hopefully with all the momentum downtown Edmonton is now experiencing, it won't take as long as 104 street has. It's taken a really long time since the new street design of 104 street to get to where we are today.

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