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"If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee
I wonder if part of the challenge in filling these retail spaces in Commerce/Manulife is the impending glut of CRUs which will be opening in the ICE District.
Commerce also tries hard to rent out its CRUs to tony clientele to varying degrees of success and failure (luxury swimwear, luxury olive oil, chocolaterie, Sam Abouhassan, etc, etc), but the office tower itself is occupied primarily by more modestly-heeled government workers. Perhaps luxury retail would rather cluster itself around the new Stantec/J.W. Marriott?
“Son, one day this will be an iconic structure shaping Edmonton’s skyline.”
Seems that Vancouver has been sacrificing their industrial land:
Metro Vancouver running out of industrial land
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...land-1.4117401
Downtown Edmonton had rail land and lumberyards etc. Today it’s downtown retail sprawl.
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Oh my lord. Reading this thread you wouldn’t know if it was 2018 or 2008. Same old bull$hit, different decade lol
Job No 284926015-002
Description: To Construct a Temporary Publicly Accessible Private Park which is Accessory to a Professional, Financial and Office Support Service Building (Alberta Blue Cross) for Ten (10) Years.
Location: 10012 - 107 STREET NW
Plan NB Blk 7 Lot 54
10006 - 107 STREET NW
Plan NB Blk 7 Lot 55
Applicant: ABC BENEFITS CORPORATION
Status: To Be Assigned
Create Date: 7/10/2018 8:44:30 AM
hmmmm
Thanks Alberta Blue Cross for putting a successful business out on the street, and leaving the building vacant for 10 years. This temporary park will totally make up for it!
I understand they bought it for future expansion, but they seem to prefer to pack their employees into their current space like sardines. I don't think the employee are very happy about this, but I am not sure senior management cares.
Of course I believe there also happens to be a totally empty office building immediately north of them now, so perhaps they might pursue that in the meantime.
Is this maybe the redevelopment of the Il Portico building into a temporary park?
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I think you are off the 'marc' here (pun intended) regarding putting a business out on the street. My understanding from the owners is they sold the building and then moved to a new space with a different restaurant concept - the very successful The Marc restaurant on 106 Street/99 Avenue.
Yes I had heard it was planned to be a residential conversion. I suppose it has a fairly good location, but it is rather square and has no balconies so I don't think most residential tenants would find it that desirable. It sure wouldn't be my first choice if I was looking for a place to rent in the area and I don't think the rental market is so booming right now that it will fill quickly. I would imagine they would have to spend a fair bit of money and time to convert it, so I am thinking it might be easier and cheaper to find a good potential commercial tenant nearby, say whose existing space was already packed to the gills to fill at least some of the space.
Job No 287278928-001
Description: To develop a Cannabis Retail Store
Location: 10125 - 104 STREET NW
Plan NB1 Blk 3 Lot 159
Applicant: MCCOLL (ARMSTRONG BLOCK CANNABIS CORP.), HUNTER D.
Status: New
Create Date: 7/11/2018 11:42:04 AM
My recollection is that ABC bought the building/land with the intention of knocking it down for parking for their staff. So they terminated Il Portico's lease and then found out the city wouldn't actually let them knock the building down for more parking. Yes, the Marc came together a year or two later, but that was out of necessity when they got the boot from their previous location.
It was boneheaded decision making on the part of ABC, and at a time when there wasn't a heck of a lot of good dining options in the area.
Is your post an attempt to indirectly show that you dont believe they will succeed on their request, or that you are not favorable to the request?
^Yeah, what's the problem? Seems an obvious location for a head shop. No schools nearby, no playgrounds. Wasn't DECL arguing on behalf of a dispensation to alter the proximity of liquor stores to one another based on some "unique" downtown requirement? Pretty sure there's a healthy contingent of pot smokers living in downtown condo's.
What about Central High?
Lol you guys are high-larious. 1) They missed the lottery, 2) they won't meet any separation distances.
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Teddy's is currently undergoing renovations.
Gas Pump is still undergoing renovations - based on peeks thru windows, probably won't be done until autumn.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Job No 287376737-001
Description: To change the use from "Common Space" to a Cannabis Retail Store
Location: 10405 - JASPER AVENUE NW
Plan NB Blk 4 Lots 61-62
10405 - JASPER AVENUE NW
Plan NB Blk 4 Lots 63-64
10405 - JASPER AVENUE NW
Plan NB Blk 4 Lots 64-66
Applicant: 10663824 CANADA INC
Status: Intake Review
Create Date: 7/12/2018 9:39:44 AM
Anything other than Cannabis stores being built in the city?
^zing.
^^This is the rush and then things will subside.
Job No 112702204-037
Description: To change the Use from Restaurants to Convenience Retail Stores and to construct interior alterations.
Location: 10240 - 103 STREET NW
Plan 1622175 Unit 1
10238C - 103 STREET NW
Condo Common Area (Plan 1622175)
Applicant: CTM DESIGN SERVICES LTD
Status: Intake Review
Create Date: 7/13/2018 11:46:21 AM
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I believe this is moving from The Coast Hotel to across the street:
Reference ID: Job No 287159457-001
Description: To change the use from Professional, Financial Office Support Services Use to Personal Service Shop (AHAVA SALON)
Location: 10130 - 105 STREET NW
Plan B2 Blk 5 Lots 191-192
Applicant: AHAVA SALON, VERONICA GREEN-HASHMI
Status: Issued
Create Date: 7/10/2018 12:55:03 PM
Neighbourhood: DOWNTOWN
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Not a new build, but Fire and Flower has vinyl signage on the windows on a storefront on the north side of Jasper avenue, just east of 116 st. Have the licenses been allotted yet, or are they jumping the gun? The store is about 385 metres away from Oliver School as the crow flies, so it is farther away then the 200 metre limit from a school
Finally seeing some positive evidence that two restaurants being built in the MNP tower. Workers placed coverings on the windows in the northwest corner of the tower announcing the coming of a new pasta place.
I don't often bus it through 107th to get to 124th street, but just passed the graveyard on the #3 yesterday I noticed the old Discount Jim's location gated off with a blue gate surrounding the premises. How long has this been gated off?
Mom said I should not talk to cretins!
Do you mean the Brick clearance centre? They're planning a new retail strip mall development there. The renders looked pretty interesting, like they're trying to mimic an old European street or something. I know some people hate that "faux historic" stuff but I thought it looked pretty cool.
That's way outta downtown, you know! Might as well be discussing WEM or SEC in this thread!![]()
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Its always been known as "Discount Jim's" to me, but yes that's the location. Sounds interesting, are there any renders available? Thanks.
The downtown boundaries have always been confusing to me and I've lived here since 1978. To me, downtown exists West up to the General hospital, and East up to 97th street along Jasper Ave proper. There's lots of posts on this thread (including mine) that carry dt to 107th etc. Downtown and the downtown core of course are 2 different things.
Mom said I should not talk to cretins!
I only saw the renders on CTV news, but they don't have the video on their website and I don't remember the name of the development.
Manchester Square.
Renderings and criticisms found in the Edmonton Construction Projects, Proposals and Rumours 2
thread, pinned at the top of this very forum.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
July 17, 2018
170, 10235 - 101 STREET NW
Plan 8822518 Lot 79C
To construct interior alterations for a restaurant. Change of Use from Personal Service Shop to Restaurant (Delicious Pho).
Drunken Ox Sober Cat opens tomorrow
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
You mean DOSC.
AGLC did not permit the use of 'Drunken' in the name.
Review of the DOSC (xrunken Ox Sober Cat) on 104st/102Ave.
https://fafifotography.com/2018/07/2...sc-restaurant/
Posters for Amore Pasta are up on the MNP tower podium windows.
On the other side? They really should do something about the closed sidewalks due to the HSBC tower renos.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Ya, it's good to see more restaurants opening up in that area. Interestingly I learned today that the owner of Amore Pasta is the brother of the owner of Joey across the street. And they have a third brother who apparently owns the Earls chain, and altogether they own 65% of Cactus Club. That's a very competitive family. Maybe we'll see an Earls in the area soon too.
Sounds like you just heard about the Fuller family. Bus Fuller (Leroy Earl Fuller) had restaurants around town, and throughout Alberta and BC in the 60s, 70s and 80s called Fullers which later changed to Earls when son Stan came onboard. They owned a bunch of A&Ws back then too. The Fullers on Whyte is now the Humptys beside Mill Creek ravine. I used to hang out at this Fullers location as I lived nearby back then. The one on Jasper became Earls. Jeff Fuller and Stewart Fuller, two other sons of Leroy, are involved in Joey and Cactus Club Cafe chains and a few other restaurants.
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Ya, I'm sure it's not news for a lot of people but it was news for me.![]()
Exactly.
Well, clearly I have no clue. I don't know these people. I'm just passing on what I heard.In any case, good to see more restaurants opening up in that area.
http://www.buokfresh.ca
Opens on 100ave/107st this week it (or very soon) seems. Heading to the opening Wed.
I was lucky enough to attend Buok's soft opening on Saturday. Food was fantastic! I think the concept will work great, fast and fresh traditional Bibimbap bowls with lots of options. Sandwiches and Korean Taco's in the evenings with a more drinking and snacks focused atmosphere. The Soju pork was addicting.
I wish them all the best and know I'll be back!
https://www.hicksbiz.com/Home/tabid/...6/Default.aspx
This will help.
^^That sounds awesome, looking forward to trying it.
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OK then...
Anyway
New cafe, steakhouse and tasting bar opens on 104 St. as DOSC debuts
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Stopped by last night.
-a most beautiful renovation
-expanded kitchen
-much more open, interactive
-food looked/smelled good, but I was only there for a beer
-great local beer selection
-Feels like the Downtown Holy Roller
Just a carry over from SSP Matt. You should ease up, take a Midol.
This is kinda funny, mostly because it's an account that's been dormant for 12 years and suddenly he's logged in. Like the username and password were saved on a computer he hasn't used since then. Based on the number of posts on it he probably abandoned it and decided not to be anonymous just a few hours into C2E's existence.
Though I guess as the guy who couldn't get my old password and had to create a new account when the software changeover happened I have no right to talk.
There can only be one.
12 years! lol.
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105 St just south of 104 Ave, on the former Map Town space.
Not sure how I feel about this, to be honest.
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“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Backstreet Bistro is still shutdown, and still in a state of half-demolition.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
^^Silk is only open in evenings till late. Entendre only one or two nights a week.
^Patio area is being filled in for a Mac's Convenience Store.
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The silk space looks good but the flashing already looks damaged.![]()
^Metal always 'oil cans' like that, or I guess it could have been bent in installation.
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Is the Days Inn on 106 St north of 100 Ave still open?
I do remember that this hotel was closed for a bit but can't recall the details.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Days inn still open as of last Wednesday
My antidepressent drug of choice is running. Cheaper with less side effects!
Thanks. Days Inn is indeed open as of tonight.
There is a Leased sign up on the old Albert's space, presumably for the Cora.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Albert's is closing?We have a Cora across the street from us. We've been there once for lunch. Kind of meh just like this post.
I remember when Day's Inn was the Ambassador.
Mom said I should not talk to cretins!
The hotel didn't close, but Albert's left many months ago now and yes, Cora is the rumour.
Has it been mentioned yet that GoodLife is opening up in Commerce Place?
That's the word on the street, former KPMG space.
Coming soon to the northern 1/3 of the former Earth's General Store on 104 St (the other 2/3 still up for lease)
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“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
Job No 227088968-011
Description: To Change the Use of an Accessory Specialty Food Service to a Restaurant (Soulful Ingredients) and Operate a Spectator Entertainment Establishment (Special Events) within a portion of an Indoor Participant Recreation Service (gym)
Location: 216, 10145 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 878
204, 10125 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 879
205, 10125 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 880
201, 10125 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 881
202, 10125 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 882
203, 10125 - 109 STREET NW
Plan 1622431 Unit 883
Plan 1622431 Unit 891
10125 - 109 STREET NW
Condo Common Area (Plan 9020932,1522596,1622431)
Applicant: SOULFUL INGREDIENTS
Status: Intake Review
Create Date: 8/1/2018 1:45:36 PM
Filistix is opening near the SE corner of 100 Ave and 107 St
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
^Beside Subway in the old Trendz?
What's a filistix?
From filistix.ca
Originally Posted by filistix.ca
This building is still for lease. With the arena in easy walking distance and a large parking lot, would this make a good spot for the Pint owners' sports bar/night club they failed to get in the Fox? You could get the MacEwan crowd, too, and its stumbling distance home to 104 ave, Ultima, and the ICE district condos/offices. They would just need to advertise its location well. There is no residential neighbours to worry about, and the local businesses would likely appreciate a spot in addition to Dirtbag Cafe, the Lingnan, and Cafe Amore to go to. Offer game day/concert day parking with in-restaurant purchase like 1st Rnd and they'd be golden. Thoughts?
^I think it will be a tougher place to fill than you think. It has no visibility, 104 Avenue is a barrier to cross, isn't right in the Downtown or Oliver. Has some parking, but that's not enough of a draw to fill the amount of seats I'm guessing it has. They need walk-in traffic in addition to the parking. Maybe MacEwan, but also need residents to go there.
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It's a really bad location, as MacEwan/104th avenue are a massive barrier to attract business from office workers and the core. Any food service business is going to struggle there, I would think. They'll get basically zero lunch time business. And the large size works against it. Many of the old-school large, out of the core/Whyte bars have shut down or converted to concert only venues like the Union because the atmosphere is terrible when there's only 20 people in a place that can hold hundreds.
Points taken. Still, I think it has potential. Its only a block south of the apartments north of 106 avenue. And I could see it being a nice spot for people from the suburbs who want to park outside the downtown core prior to a concert or game, and grab a meal and a pint or two before paying through the nose at the arena. If you could make deals with some of the pubs in the burbs to make it the default park'n'ride bus drop off and pick up zone, that would help too. And if people are willing to walk cross 104 ave and walk east to 1st Rnd for a less hipstery, more sports bar experience, then they should be willing to go north of MacEwan to get to bar at the former Vivo's space. You just need some good street sign advertising combined with some advertising on sports stations and in Roger's Place itself to bring people in. It would still be a gamble, but if the Fox people are looking for a spot, I think they could pull it off.
Maybe in the near future. But not right now - not when 105 St NB is closed due to the never-ending sewer project.
“You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012
^December 18' it is to clean up, but likely not completely until spring 2019.
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