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    I'M COMING TO THE EVENT, WHERE SHOULD I STAND?
    From Louise McKinney Park and the surrounding area, you'll have a great view of the finish line. You can also catch the action from below the Shaw Conference Centre on Grierson Hill Rd and in the surrounding green space. From Jasper Avenue, you'll have a view of the starting gate. Although none of the viewing areas capture the entire track, there will be large screens projecting the races live from every angle on Jasper Avenue, in Sir Winston Churchill Square and at various points of the track itself. Space is limited and spectator zones are first-come, first-served. Each portion of the track provides its own excitement, so choose wisely!

    WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE? WHEN SHOULD I HEAD OUT TO THE EVENT?
    There are 2 main nights of action to come out for. The Team Competition takes place on Friday, March 13, from 7pm-9pm, and the World Championship final goes down on Saturday, March 14, from 7pm-10pm. On both Friday and Saturday, make sure to arrive early because viewing areas are first-come, first-served.

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    Weather is going to be off the charts on Friday and Saturday as per longterm forecast. Estimated highs of 13, 14C on respective days. Good thing track is well refrigerated but could cause some problems making area pretty messy. Get to this early.
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    Long term forecasts aren't always reliable - just a few days ago they were saying we were heading into another deep freeze this coming week. In any case, the Crashed Ice has been around long enough that I'm betting they'll know how to deal with +10 temps!
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    Checked out the area today as the weather was great and have to admit I'm more concerned than ever about viewing locations for this event. Virtually every viewing spot I had contemplated is either going to be reserved for VIP (area around Hall D and outer concourse which is the best of the course from anywhere.

    next, upper concourse at SCC is all tarped and fenced off and no vantage points whatsoever. Lower SCC concourse is all taken up by scaffolding and track and no vantage points there either. Even checked out East of Hall D and a bunch of wild scrub trees blocks much of the view there..

    Views from Louise McKinney are routinely poor and only small segments of track visible.

    Trouble is a wide swath of the area is fenced off and from what I heard is remaining that way throughout the event and you can't get close to the track. Extremely frustrating trying to figure out vantage spots.

    Concerns about viewing locations warranted it seems but only because of the whole area and best vantage spots all being fenced off.

    Next frustration is the city site linked above and faq is of no useful information whatsoever and what is stated is basically inaccurate. Louise McKinney park and area are not good viewing locations unless they tear down all the fences currently keeping people out.


    Also, stated access to the site from Louise McKinney Bridge is an out and out lie. They have the whole area blocked off anywhere near the site. We had to walk all the way to low level bridge and then back up the hill following Grierson road. Be forewarned there is zero current access to the Louise McKinney Buildings (washrooms, deli, rentals, etc. The whole area is blocked off. Can't get near there from any direction.
    Frustrating when what is stated is clearly inaccurate.

    just as an aside they had a lot of trouble today trying to build any ice on the run. They're working on it all night every night and weather not helping at all.
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    They were testing the night lighting earlier this evening.
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    ^lighting looked amazing last night driving back into downtown, but yes, I am a little concerned about viewing.
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    Judging only by seeing broadcasts of past Crashed Ice events, I get the feeling Red Bull will be trying to get people as close as possible. Maybe the fences are just there to keep people out until the event?

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    Very well could be and yes, typically people are packed in along the majority of the course. In our case, there will be some areas where that is clearly not possible, but overall I am sure it will work out as this is not their first rodeo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    Judging only by seeing broadcasts of past Crashed Ice events, I get the feeling Red Bull will be trying to get people as close as possible. Maybe the fences are just there to keep people out until the event?
    I'm hoping for this as well Alex but I asked around and got mixed messages on that with some saying the fence is remaining. But overall lots of confusion existed. I find it odd that there were lots of signs for instance indicating detour to get around the construction site and the detour didn't exist. All the stairways to bypass the fenced in site were closed. The only way to access SCC was either low level bridge or scrambling up hill as soon as we crossed Louise McKinney bridge.

    Agreed that the lighting was nice but there was of course lots of frustration on site. A lot of the area is quickly turning into a muddy mess. They may not be able to open areas strictly because they will be inundated with water/mud.

    The weather is not cooperating for this. At all. The low last night was +5C for instance and not the most conducive weather to freezing the track even with refrigeration.

    its going to be weird for the event next week as limited snow will be visible which is unfortunate and the river is already losing ice. Not going to look much like a winter event although maybe that dispels some of the idea about Edmontons climate. haha

    Agreed that the lighting looked interesting. Was a nice view from Louise McKinney bridge from aesthetic pov but too far for event viewing.

    Anyway screens will be setup all over and they are trying to encourage people to congregate more in Louise McKinney area (parts of it that are open) This is what I gathered from talking to the crew onsite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Very well could be and yes, typically people are packed in along the majority of the course. In our case, there will be some areas where that is clearly not possible, but overall I am sure it will work out as this is not their first rodeo.
    On this course the track is elevated with scaffolding and quite above the ground in most places. Being near the track would afford zero-> poor viewing from what we could ascertain (although we couldn't get near track due to the fencing.

    I contrast this with two Olympic Bob sled runs I've attended in which case the runs were right on the ground. its unfortunate they can't use that kind of infrastructure instead of elevated. With bobsled its great because you can just stand outside the track and see the event. Not really the case with elevated track. you have to find some areas that are elevated. Hill or something.

    Have to say I'm a little confused. As I stated a VIP section is available outside Hall D, and there maybe some other reserved viewing available but I'm not seeing where one can buy a VIP pass.
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    ^I believe the VIP are for sponsors and other invite only folk. Not sure it is available to the public or not. There is a 'fan zone' apparently which is better viewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    ^I believe the VIP are for sponsors and other invite only folk. Not sure it is available to the public or not. There is a 'fan zone' apparently which is better viewing.
    Where is that? We're days from the event and none of us even know where it is and its not delineated, posted, or made clear.

    btw the VIP concourse is on East side of SCC immediately adjacent to Hall D. That is the best view and the staff at hand made it very clear upon my question that this was going to be an entirely reserved area. It was my first pick.

    I understand this is the first time they've run the event here but I expect better from an organizer that runs these in locations all over the world.

    You can't just orgainize at last minute and expect to be informed on where to go. Its going to be nonstop confusion and milling around in the mud.
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    I'M COMING TO THE EVENT, WHERE SHOULD I STAND?
    From Louise McKinney Park and the surrounding area, you'll have a great view of the finish line. You can also catch the action from below the Shaw Conference Centre on Grierson Hill Rd and in the surrounding green space. From Jasper Avenue, you'll have a view of the starting gate. Although none of the viewing areas capture the entire track, there will be large screens projecting the races live from every angle on Jasper Avenue, in Sir Winston Churchill Square and at various points of the track itself. Space is limited and spectator zones are first-come, first-served. Each portion of the track provides its own excitement, so choose wisely!

    WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE? WHEN SHOULD I HEAD OUT TO THE EVENT?

    Saturday, March 14 is the Ice Cross Downhill World Championship Final - the main event. Gates open at 4pm and the action kicks off at 7pm, wrapping up at 10pm. Make sure to arrive early because all viewing areas are first-come, first-served.

    If you're looking for more than just one night of Ice Cross Downhill action, come out on Friday, March 13 from 7-9pm to catch the Team Competition too!

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    Upon actually visiting the site, looking at it closely I already mentioned that the above quote is inaccurate. Views from areas mentioned are pretty poor.

    The imformation looks good on paper, doesn't reflect reality. its like they build this without even considering sitelines.
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    Heat is on Crashed Ice but those worried about track should chill
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...063/story.html

    EDMONTON - Will it be Crashed Ice or an improvised waterslide course?

    With abnormally warm temperatures through the province this week, organizers of Red Bull Crashed Ice say that their competitors will be on ice when the downhill skating race comes to Edmonton from Thursday through Saturday.

    Environment Canada on Monday forecast a high Thursday of 8C, followed by 12C Friday and a 16C Saturday.

    While the public relations firm that’s running the event said no one was available for interviews on the condition of the track in Edmonton, they supplied a statement from Andrew Markey, who manages the technical side of the track for builder Hangman Productions.

    “We manufacture the ice and have advanced chilling systems in place to keep the track frozen even if it gets warm outside,” Markey said. “We also cover certain parts of the ice that are south facing and receive high sun exposure to make sure we’re good to go for the event.”

    Hangman Productions built the track for Crashed Ice’s stop in St. Paul, Minn., from Jan. 21 to 24.

    Now in its 14th year of operation, Crashed Ice has been working to master creating ice that will withstand impact from its competitors and that will hold up in adverse conditions. Austrian mobile ice rink specialist AST has developed what it calls the Skateway: A flexible system of tubes that cools the surface to -10C. The ice on the track is five times thicker than the ice the Oilers play on at Rexall Place and is designed to maintain in temperatures up to 12C. “Even in warm weather,” Crashed Ice’s website says, “the race will go on.”
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    Yeah, if they keep sizable portions covered right up till race time, I think even at 16 degrees, they stand a chance, (ironic sentence below notwithstanding, I do believe this).

    LMAO, a couple of thousand rolls of aluminum foil would almost certainly work wonders.
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    Is it possible for there to be any more misinformation or lack of information regarding this event. The Journal quote above now saying the event runs Thursday, Friday, Saturday. On the grounds staff were insisting the event is Friday, Saturday, Sunday (also wrong) The website says there will be group runs on Friday and individual event on Saturday.

    Is it so difficult to get the correct version of events out there. lol journal is chronically wrong on events.

    Also, as per the article the entire ice surface is "south facing" kind of what you get at this latitude on a south facing bank of the river in March. Note that snow and ice melt first on that side of the river always. They might have a little more to deal with than the temperatures as on a sunny day its going to be shining on that track all day. May have to delay the start due to daily savings time. Its not getting dark now till about 7:45. Event looks better in the dark, just saying. It won't be pitch dark till 8pm.
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    Course looks amazing tonight as I was driving downtown from the southside!
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    ^Greenspace is right. I can see the whole track from Connors Rd. and a good chunk of it from the footbridge. I'll be letting the kids romp around the river valley while I get a great view from a moderate distance.

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    I was going to put this in the "Rant" section but thought this thread works

    My rant is about Travel Alberta. Now, we know that they have always played favorites to our neighbors down south. Fine. But the lack of promotion for Redbull Crashed Ice is ridiculous.

    For an organization that contributed $100,000 to the event, the amount of exposure they have given it over the last month on their social media feeds is next to nothing.Travel Alberta have a HUGE following on most social media platforms.

    Article about funding and the event: http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/03/0...shed-ice-is-on

    So I went back a month (February 10) and counted how many times they have promoted the event...

    Facebook: 0
    Twitter: 2 times
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    ^Travel Alberta's social media and advertising mandate is on foreigner travelers coming to Alberta, which is basically for the Rockies. I know that sucks, but they cater to where I know foreign travelers what to go. I've had this very discussion with their social media folks and it's just not in their mandate. They will repost the occasional instagram or tweet from something outside Banff or Calgary, but not often. Banff is one of the top tourist destinations in Canada both domestically and abroad. They cater heavily to this fact.
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    Just saw a tweet that mentioned that "spectator zones are accessed through the Shaw Conference Centre"

    Product promotion central, I assume.

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    ^beer gardens too I understand.

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    ^Now you're talking. Likely Red Bull gardens too?

    Going to do some intel after dinner. Should get a Flickr account or something as I'm hoping to take some pics.

    Hrrrm, they should set up bleachers in Hall D. Whoa.
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    Amazing

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    More on this being a heavily scaffolded run as I mentioned earlier that pre-empts good views from ground level.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...063/story.html

    More than 80 per cent of Edmonton’s track is built on scaffolding structures. This could reduce viewing points for fans. At most Crashed Ice events there’s a 50/50 mix between scaffolding and natural surfaces.
    This is really unfortunate and I'm unsure why it was done this way. The whole area is a nice gentle slope that could have run at ground level. Instead tons of scaffolding snaking around SCC which only results in the course not being entirely viewable from any one site.

    This ends up being about the silliest layout they could have come up with.

    Gonna be some frustrated people out there trying to get a view of this. I was gonna go for sure but having some second thoughts.
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    ^ Agree 100%

    I was seriously considering attending but have decided that the high probability regarding the lack of decent viewing will not be worth the hassle or crowds if I have to view it on a screen. I've had numerous people tell me the same thing. Considering the money the City is tossing into help putting this on, it's unfortunate, inexcusable actually that this issue was not a priority. And the lack of detailed information regarding viewing areas is bizarre and second rate.

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    https://www.mailoutinteractive.com/I...=666850&p=d655

    Press release from the city.

    I'll probably watch from the closed off Grierson Hill. And the ped bridge will be open, but you can't watch from it.
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    This is gonna be so much fun!
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    There are 2 nights, get a nice early spot one of the two, done. Stop complaining and go enjoy it as you can.

    Take advantage of the other night to go into Churchill for the festivities or one of the many many other events.

    Hotel Mac Fire and Ice patio

    Mercer Red Bull DJs

    Events down in LMP

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    OK, so beyond the stupid decision to have this entire thing up in the air with no place to view it from, where should I go? I have a sizeable group meeting me for the event but I'm torn whether I should try to find a place on the hill, watch the screens from Jasper, or the screens from Churchill Square. I won't be downtown before then so I can't do recon, and there is absolutely nothing in terms of, you know, a map or anything with little dots telling me where anything is!

    Seriously - where do I go, and where do I tell my group to meet up??? I love participating in these types of events but this beyond frustrating.
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    This thing is as much about the spectacle and the events surrounding it than it is the actual race heats. Even if you can find a good, close spot to see a portion of the track, by it's very nature you'll only be able to see the skaters for 5-10 seconds before they're out of sight. And that applies to past locations as well. That's why there will be giant screens located throughout the area, so you can watch the rest of the race that is out of your sight line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    OK, so beyond the stupid decision to have this entire thing up in the air with no place to view it from, where should I go? I have a sizeable group meeting me for the event but I'm torn whether I should try to find a place on the hill, watch the screens from Jasper, or the screens from Churchill Square. I won't be downtown before then so I can't do recon, and there is absolutely nothing in terms of, you know, a map or anything with little dots telling me where anything is!

    Seriously - where do I go, and where do I tell my group to meet up??? I love participating in these types of events but this beyond frustrating.
    LM Park and Churchill.

    Other events around downtown.
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    Bulliver on ssp... Amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    This thing is as much about the spectacle and the events surrounding it than it is the actual race heats. Even if you can find a good, close spot to see a portion of the track, by it's very nature you'll only be able to see the skaters for 5-10 seconds before they're out of sight. And that applies to past locations as well. That's why there will be giant screens located throughout the area, so you can watch the rest of the race that is out of your sight line.
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    LM Park and Churchill.

    Other events around downtown.
    Exactly my point. Both of your suggestions are vague about where I can go to stand and watch, even on the screens. Why doesn't the website have a map showing where the screens will be on Jasper/Churchill? Where will associated events be held? Is there food? Where are the beer gardens? It's an event we've never had before, and there's next to no information out there advising interested people where to go. I'm explicitly looking for information and I can't find any. A little better information might get the less hardcore out, and we should be doing that.
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    Did some intel - sorry took photos but can't upload.

    Upshot? This is a TV "things" event. we're just command-event eye candy.

    Shaw Conference Centre?

    Well, unless you're a VIP or in a wheelchair and are the attendant - F.U. - check out a big screen somewhere - they're far more interested in showing Edmonton things from helicopter shots than actually having Edmontonians be part of anything.

    Well, you can go to Halls A.B and C and see not a bloody thing live.

    Minneapolis = 140,000. Edmonton = be surprised if there's 5K. Suspect more like 1-2k max

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    ^Its all the sorry truth and your concern in retrospect is valid all along but if only because the VIP associated with this event has taken all the prime viewing spots and fenced and tarped off others. What the hell is the point for instance of tarping off the Jasper Avenue view on what is a free event? Can't understand that at all.

    Really what this smacks of is another one off event here that they didn't really want to put here anyway and they're doing it up in the worst possible way for potential viewers so that in the end they can say there was no interest in Edmonton and pack up the tent. All we saw on Sunday is similar other venturers roaming around, shaking their heads, and not finding one suitable viewing area that will open to the public. how they snaked this thing around SCC is idiotic from a spectator viewing perspective. This is only meant to be viewed on TV. Which is sad, because whenever you watch these events its masses of crowds that helps make it look like an event.

    I suspect there will thousands out there (a lot of people apparently travel to this event as well) but they won't be well served by the view unless they are VIP.

    Don't even ask me how one gets to be VIP. That's not even an option provided, even if one wanted to pay for it, lol.
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    It's almost as if this is a promotional event, 80% payed for by a corporation known for being associated with 'cool' events, and not an event actually run by the city or another arms-length branch.

    Red bull is not in the charity game.

    Also, what ever happened to just showing up where they say (SCC) and figuring it out from there? Does every step you take really need to be mapped out a week in advance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    It's almost as if this is a promotional event, 80% payed for by a corporation known for being associated with 'cool' events, and not an event actually run by the city or mother arms-length branch.

    Red bull is not in the charity game.

    Also, what ever happened to just showing up where they say (SCC) and figuring it out from there? Does every step you take really need to be mapped out a week in advance?
    I'm starting to wonder how much of the people scenery is trucked or flown in from one event to the other. I'll start looking for familiar faces and models at the events.

    Keep the riff raff out and middle agers like me away and fenced off from spoiling the scenery.

    It is what it is. Oh well.

    ps as for scouting it out when everything the event organizer is saying on where to view is an out and out misrepresentation then people are going to check it out. People are doing that because the information is either not present, not helpful or is wrong.

    Put it this way. If they had a large concert somewhere and all people heard was that sightlines were awful people would be wanting to find out as much as possible before going so that they could have some idea of a view, or not go. I'm not going just because some organizer puts on a spectacle without a view. Which kind of defeats the whole draw of the thing. All you ever see in Quebec is people massed up right to the track action and enjoying it from feet away. That would be awesome. You'll see little of that here because nobody will be able to see the track if you're right against it.

    its like we got bad version of Red bull crashed ice here.

    its like being a midget with floorseats at a concert..

    You'll know what we're all talking about when you get there. 80% of the track is elevated beyond ground view. Much of the rest is covered by what is SCC. The interior of which allows limited to no view unless you are VIP.
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    It hasn't even happened yet and here comes the **** parade.

    Let it happen, it's year one and it's a great event with great exposure for the city. Like most large recurring events is likely to get refined and tuned over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanC View Post
    It hasn't even happened yet and here comes the **** parade.

    Let it happen, it's year one and it's a great event with great exposure for the city. Like most large recurring events is likely to get refined and tuned over time.
    Oh look is Replacement finding absolute fault in something, how surprising. You have got to be the most negative person on this site, I hope so much that you aren't like that in person.
    Nah, this is my decompression. I have to be the healthy picture of positivity at work every day. Its kind of natural given that, and the stressors at work, that I'm different in my own time online.

    But hey, believe it or not I scouted the site on Sunday in thinking that I could offer helpful advice and viewing tips to the readers on C2E. It was a nice and pleasant day to be outdoors so why not?

    Unfortunately from a viewing perspective its a shitshow. Not making it up. if there were great vantages that weren't taken by VIP or tarped or fenced off I would be mentioning them here for users. Again its why I went.

    By all means the downtown will be buzzing and Churchill, different hotels, and proably SCC will have different things to do, see connected with the event. Worth going to just for the buzz it will bring to the downtown. Kind of like a Grey Cup buzz just less of it. . just remember to PVR the thing because other than screens you won't be seeing much of the actual event.

    nothing wrong with informing people given the organizers are misleading people into thinking there are valid view areas for this event.

    Should be another fun weekend for Edmonton which has more and more events and things to do all the time. Winters in Edmonton have been pretty happening in recent years. Definitely a good direction taken.

    You don't follow me too well either. I'm the one bringing positive reports on Deepfreeze festival, Silver Skate festival, Flying Canoe festival etc. Events that are great get my positive write ups. Being agenda based timing responses you don't have anything to say about those ever.
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    Similar to car races, you watch it on a screen for much of the race and choose a spot to catch a corner.

    They will have a giant screen ^in Churchill with events, screens on Jasper between 97 and 99st among other screens like at the Mac etc.

    I am going Friday to find a spot and check it out, then sat early to get a great spot.

    Wicked large projected add on the east side of the apartments on Jasper 99st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
    Did some intel - sorry took photos but can't upload.

    Upshot? This is a TV "things" event. we're just command-event eye candy.

    Shaw Conference Centre?

    Well, unless you're a VIP or in a wheelchair and are the attendant - F.U. - check out a big screen somewhere - they're far more interested in showing Edmonton things from helicopter shots than actually having Edmontonians be part of anything.

    Well, you can go to Halls A.B and C and see not a bloody thing live.

    Minneapolis = 140,000. Edmonton = be surprised if there's 5K. Suspect more like 1-2k max

    Sorry - removing all references to this insult from any social media I have.

    Unless, of course, you like to be used for someone else's agenda - hidden candidacy.
    Like most events, it is as much the event as it is tv, usually more about tv.

    Hardly

    1-2 max hey... Wanna wager 1-2k on that? Try tens of thousands over the weekend.
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    Red Bull Crashed Ice - lots of updated information

    Access & Spectator Areas

    All areas are first-come, first-served, and if any reach capacity, fans will be directed to another area.

    Access to the main spectator areas is via the Shaw Conference Centre with the entrances on Jasper Avenue and the Meeting Room (lowest) Level. Large crowds are expected, so alternatives are Grierson Hill or Louise McKinney Riverfront Park stairs near 95A St. From the south side of the river, you can also access the event space via the Louise McKinney pedestrian bridge, but viewing is not allowed from the bridge.

    Although none of the spectator areas capture the entire track, there will be large screens projecting the races live from every angle. You can catch the action from below the Shaw Conference Centre on Grierson Hill Rd and in the surrounding green space in Louise McKinney Park.

    There are no public spectator areas in the foyers or on the patios of the Shaw Conference Centre.
    Viewing Areas

    Even if you're not close to the track, you can still watch the races on a live feed and be a part of the excitement! Additional viewing areas with large screens are:

    Near the top of the track on Jasper Ave, between 97 and 99 St
    In the beer gardens in Hall ABC in the Shaw Conference Centre
    At Sir Winston Churchill Square


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    more...

    Food and Beverage

    Concessions will be available in the atrium of all levels of the Shaw Conference Centre and food trucks will be on-site as well. Alcoholic beverages will not be permitted on public spectator grounds.

    Family-Friendly Activities on the Square

    Old-time hockey meets new-school downhill ice cross for Red Bull Crashed Ice weekend on Churchill Square! On Friday from 12-8pm and Saturday from 10am-5:30pm, the Fort Edmonton Park Foundation will be holding the inaugural 2015 Edmonton Flatstick Hockey Tournament. Bring the family to catch the old-school action or enjoy music, activities, food trucks and displays, as well as the City Market on Saturday from 9am-3pm. Starting at 7pm on Saturday, you can watch the live broadcast of Red Bull Crashed Ice on a big screen. Visit flatstick.ca and City Hall for more details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    OK, so beyond the stupid decision to have this entire thing up in the air with no place to view it from, where should I go? I have a sizeable group meeting me for the event but I'm torn whether I should try to find a place on the hill, watch the screens from Jasper, or the screens from Churchill Square. I won't be downtown before then so I can't do recon, and there is absolutely nothing in terms of, you know, a map or anything with little dots telling me where anything is!

    Seriously - where do I go, and where do I tell my group to meet up??? I love participating in these types of events but this beyond frustrating.
    I agree entirely, would be nice if they had a map of the area and then draw in the viewing areas, perhaps get take a picture from each area toward the track so potential spectators would know what to expect. This would take a couple hours at most.

    If I wanted to watch a TV I'd just as soon stay at home.

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    ^sure, but watching on a screen (again similar to an car race, bike race or horse race etc.) is fun when with thousands of others, with food and beverage, with things to see and do, things for the kids etc.
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    Ian, you'll defend a turd to the death as long as it's a fresh new turd, won't you?

    A number of us are legitimately excited for this event and ARE going, but are incredibly frustrated at the horrific lack of details, and not because we're lacking brain capacity to figure it out.
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    Tens of thousands Ian? LOL, tens of thousands might try, then go home muttering effing shyteshow under their breath.

    But, hey, we'll pop by and see.

    BTW, is there going to be shuttle service to LMP for all those tens of thousands of fans?

    I mean, if you knew tens of trhousands of people were going to show up at a place you can't get to by car or public transit, wouldn't you plan a shuttle bus?

    LOL, just for good measure, and to make sure everyone knows this is Edmonton - the top escalator in SCC was broken and the next out-of-service.

    For the record, very much want this to succeed - have no doubt the helicopter shots will show the world a spectacular city (and it'll be a spectacular spring day). ...

    Just, this is a made-for-TV event. Looking at our valley, if they had wanted a fan-friendly event - well, soooo many other places they could have held it.

    Government House Park anyone?
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    I don't have a problem with the location, reasonably close to an LRT station. Perhaps if they host it next year they'll erect stands beside the finish line or on some of the corners, or have wider scaffolding so fans can stand along the route.

    It is like they want people to come to view in some ways, but in other ways they don't want people to come.
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    Looking forward to Sunday, when everybody is raving about this event except a handful of people who have already decided that it will be terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Ian, you'll defend a turd to the death as long as it's a fresh new turd, won't you?

    A number of us are legitimately excited for this event and ARE going, but are incredibly frustrated at the horrific lack of details, and not because we're lacking brain capacity to figure it out.
    Hardly and I too am frustrated with information hombre, but just improvise and go with the flow a little when there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McBoo View Post
    Tens of thousands Ian? LOL, tens of thousands might try, then go home muttering effing shyteshow under their breath.

    But, hey, we'll pop by and see.

    BTW, is there going to be shuttle service to LMP for all those tens of thousands of fans?

    I mean, if you knew tens of trhousands of people were going to show up at a place you can't get to by car or public transit, wouldn't you plan a shuttle bus?

    LOL, just for good measure, and to make sure everyone knows this is Edmonton - the top escalator in SCC was broken and the next out-of-service.

    For the record, very much want this to succeed - have no doubt the helicopter shots will show the world a spectacular city (and it'll be a spectacular spring day). ...

    Just, this is a made-for-TV event. Looking at our valley, if they had wanted a fan-friendly event - well, soooo many other places they could have held it.

    Government House Park anyone?
    At every single Crashed ice there are tens of thousands over the weekend*, I expect that to be the case here as well. This does not mean 50k along side the track, but through events, around the track, at LMP, at the SHAW, at Churchill etc. etc. etc...

    Shuttle service? LRT, feet, Shaw access, buses, etc.

    This event, if you research others, is AS much about the associated events, parties, things to do on site and other sites and just being there as it is about being adjacent to the track itself and watching... simple as that.
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    Schedule posted:

    Schedule
    THURSDAY 3/12


    1:00pm-3:00pm: National Shoot Out Run


    Athletes who made it through the Canadian Qualifiers get 2 runs, and the top 32 will move on to the Elimination Round on Friday afternoon.



    FRIDAY 3/13


    11:30pm-1:00pm: International Shoot Out Run


    All international athletes get two runs and the pool is narrowed down to 64. The top 32 athletes move onto the finals Saturday, while the athletes ranked 33rd to 64th will compete against the hopefuls from Thursday's National Shoot Out in the Elimination Round.


    3:00pm-4:00pm: Elimination Round


    64 athletes from the National Shoot Out and the International Shoot Out combined will be narrowed down to 32 who will participate in Saturday's finals.

    7:00pm-8:00pm: Team Competition Qualifiers

    Two teams of three athletes take on the track to qualify for the last Team Competition Finals of the season.


    8:30pm-9:30pm: Team Competition Finals


    Done in a head-to-head knockout format, the Team Competition shouldn't be missed with 6 athletes hitting the ice at the same time - pure action.



    SATURDAY 3/14


    4:00pm: Gates open to general public

    
7:00pm-10:00pm: Red Bull Crashed Ice Edmonton finals 


    The top 64 men and 16 women from the International Shoot Out and the Elimination Round will go head-to-head to determine both the winner of the Edmonton race and also the overall World Championship.

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    We were talking about deficiencies in the track layout from a close-up viewing perspective. What Churchill Square has to do with that I'll have to think pretty long and hard about.

    But, as mentioned, wish it much success. If 50k don't show up, it sure won't be because of the weather ...
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    Hotel Mac awesome information and party details.

    Called the Courtyard Marriott, doesn't know if their patio is open or not, if it needs tickets, if there are events... SAD>
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    Good Morning,

    As per our conversation please find below more information regarding the event we will be hosting at the Hotel Macdonald on March 14th. Please find also attached the TV channel list.
    The hotel Macdonald will be hosting the Second Annual Farewell to Winter patio Party and as an official Red Bull Crashed Ice venue we will be televising the competition finals on an outdoor projection screen. As close to the action as possible without actually being there. Please note that the track is not visible from our patio.

    Date: March 14th
    Time: 6:00pm - 10:00pm
    Ticket : $45 plus ticket handling fees
    Event includes: Winter appetizers, hors d' oeuvres prepared by Chef Jost and his team, Ice Bar (Cash bar) , Entertainment and Winter Activities

    All tickets inquiries:

    http://www.eventbrite.com/e/fire-and...ts-15695001171.

    The only time tickets are available for sale at the hotel direct will be the evening of the actual event.

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    SHAW - screens, entertainment, beer gardens, food, FREE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Hotel Mac awesome information and party details.

    Called the Courtyard Marriott, doesn't know if their patio is open or not, if it needs tickets, if there are events... SAD>
    You seemingly spoke to the front desk. I spoke with the food and catering manager who stated Red Bull functions are full up on Saturday and patio potentially open on Friday. Bistro definitely available first come first served on Friday. In fact we were given the option to sit outside if we wanted to on Sunday.
    If the demand is there, and people want to, I think they will open up the patio depending on available staffing. I already made it clear that people will want to given the weather and conveyed that to the manager in person.

    The tact I take with such things is to simply ask if we can go on the patio. (the answer is rarely no) The tables are there, the chairs are there. Its setup.
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    I did indeed and then he transferred me, the person who picked up in the 'lounge' was also unsure.
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    I plan to attend, but I'd like to record the TV program. Who will be broadcasting the events?
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    Event link my friend, it has... info.
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    I'll probably end up in Churchill Square. I actually want to see some action.
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    I think the critics have a point.

    So let's take personal shots at the critics? Whatever. It doesn't stop the facts of the matter.

    The course is mislocated. It should be in a large bowl or pan that people can see into, rather than on a convex shape. If keeping it frozen were a priority it would be facing North, although any direction would be better than the one chosen.

    The place of IanO's photo has room for maybe 1000 people and still can't see 90% of the track.

    Despite how some would have me painted, I mean as well as anyone, but this isn't going to be optimal. I'm going, I'm going to try to enjoy it, no need to leap all over me as well as the other critics, but I hope my low expectations allow a pleasant surprise.

    It can't be any worse than Mispon, right?
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    http://win.gs/RBCIBeInTheKnow

    I'll just assume that this link full of info isn't good enough though. No precise coordinates for optimal viewing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    http://win.gs/RBCIBeInTheKnow

    I'll just assume that this link full of info isn't good enough though. No precise coordinates for optimal viewing
    Alex, in fairness to peoples comments, and the context, what you linked just now was put up on the website today, one day before the events. In fact the schedule for the events was up late as well with events actually going on tomorrow afternoon which hardly anybody knows about.

    This has been pretty weak in getting info out there and I would suggest just in the nick of time.

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    They've definitely been pushing the Saturday event, because that's where they want the biggest crowds. As for the slow trickle of information, if I were in charge of building excitement in the week prior to the event I'd be doing the exact same thing. This is promotional campaign 101. Bits of info released periodically and with increasing frequency as the event date becomes closer.

    In the Twitter age, this is how you keep people from moving on to the next exciting thing.

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    We've known this was coming for months. Let's get out and enjoy it, not ever day an event like this comes to Edmonton!
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    Anyone bringing a cowbell? I'm assuming, like skiing, or cyclocross, that cowbell's will be used along the course as the skaters pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post

    The Mac was indeed amazing. Wish they'd do that all the time.

    Hey there Jimbo, I think they ring cowbells for cycling too - must have, uh, lost mine somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    I think the critics have a point.

    So let's take personal shots at the critics? Whatever. It doesn't stop the facts of the matter.

    The course is mislocated. It should be in a large bowl or pan that people can see into, rather than on a convex shape. If keeping it frozen were a priority it would be facing North, although any direction would be better than the one chosen.

    The place of IanO's photo has room for maybe 1000 people and still can't see 90% of the track.

    Despite how some would have me painted, I mean as well as anyone, but this isn't going to be optimal. I'm going, I'm going to try to enjoy it, no need to leap all over me as well as the other critics, but I hope my low expectations allow a pleasant surprise.

    It can't be any worse than Mispon, right?
    Ever been to a race of any kind? You don't see much of the track and only get a glimpse of the action.

    It will be PACKED... go and enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    http://win.gs/RBCIBeInTheKnow

    I'll just assume that this link full of info isn't good enough though. No precise coordinates for optimal viewing
    This is what we all wanted. This should have been up at least a week ago, if not weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    http://win.gs/RBCIBeInTheKnow

    I'll just assume that this link full of info isn't good enough though. No precise coordinates for optimal viewing
    This is what we all wanted. This should have been up at least a week ago, if not weeks.
    I guess my question in that case is whether or not this information makes any meaningful change to your plans.

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    It does. I can actually make plans!

    Everyone was asking me where we were meeting. I had no idea! Now I told the group "We're meeting in zone X", and supplied the map. It's almost like that's what this type of information is for.
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    It'll be fine. Get out and enjoy! I can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Anyone bringing a cowbell? I'm assuming, like skiing, or cyclocross, that cowbell's will be used along the course as the skaters pass.
    More cowbell!

    Chilmz that is what I am expecting too, how hard would it be to draw some lines on a Google map for example with the various viewing areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    It does. I can actually make plans!

    Everyone was asking me where we were meeting. I had no idea! Now I told the group "We're meeting in zone X", and supplied the map. It's almost like that's what this type of information is for.
    Makes sense. I guess I just assume that everybody has a phone and can coordinate things like that when they get there.

    Also, I find that overplanning ruins the fun because you're always waiting around for someone or frantically trying to get new info to those people if plans change for some reason.

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    ^That's why I'm creating the plan in advance - nothing frantic. We might have to help guide one or two people to the right spot instead of a dozen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    ^That's why I'm creating the plan in advance - nothing frantic. We might have to help guide one or two people to the right spot instead of a dozen.
    I don't see how having the info available 7-14 days earlier makes any difference though. Absolutely they needed to put out a map of some sort, but I just don't understand the problem with it being released 2 days ahead of the event vs 2 weeks. There is really only so much planning one can do before it's just overkill and neurotic.

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    Out of town visitors would have loved knowing what to expect before trying to rush last-minute to book rooms for an event they have extremely limited details about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    Out of town visitors would have loved knowing what to expect before trying to rush last-minute to book rooms for an event they have extremely limited details about.
    The location and dates have been available for months. How can spectator zones affect a hotel reservation?

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    There is a map available at the Venue tab on this page
    http://www.redbullcrashedice.com/en_CA/event/edmonton

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    What you need to know about Crashed Ice

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...265/story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance View Post
    There is a map available at the Venue tab on this page
    http://www.redbullcrashedice.com/en_CA/event/edmonton

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    so spectator zone 2 seems like the best spot? what do you guys think. will be heading down there on the weekend. should be fun.
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    Zone 2, agreed.
    ... gobsmacked

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    Will you see the whole course if you stand on Low Level Bridge?

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    Trees will obstruct a portion of it.
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    See the course yah... see the skaters ... probably not, it is pretty far away.
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    For those of us who are not in Edmonton it will be on televised on OLN at 8:30pm Saturday...

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    This city, I can't even...

    Grierson Hill was closed today, despite all the articles saying no closures until tomorrow. LRT is shut down all weekend, although they are making concessions for Crashed Ice. Groat is closed all weekend.

    Does the city intentionally find ways to be this stupid? I actually think the Transportation dept plans for this as a way to get back at all the people who call them on their ineptness.
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    I'm just wondering about ice at 14C. Do they have artificial ice making equipment? Do they just skate on plywood? Just wondering

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I'm just wondering about ice at 14C. Do they have artificial ice making equipment? Do they just skate on plywood? Just wondering
    They mentioned this already that they have ice making eqiupment.......

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    Driving down Scona Road, you can see the whole course. I'm not sure if your view would be obstructed by trees on the sidewalk, but if not you could use a good high power set of binoculars to watch the whole race from there.

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    I'll be giving viewpoint 2 a try. Hope they let us on the Shaw terraces. The first row of people at the Hall D terrace should have a pretty good view. Second row, not so much.
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    Red Bull Crashed Melted Ice
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