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    ^ i agree it's not necessarily a resource issue. Leaders will put priority on what they feel is important

    They need to be educated on what's important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaerdo View Post
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    That is precisely the purpose behind the wording in the MGA as "proposed development". The Development Officer is NOT reviewing all of the potential variables around what might happen should something be built - that is the planners job, or the job of the SDAB should it be appealed.

    I think there is a lot of confusion here as to what the development officer is exactly doing. They are reviewing the information presented to them on the application for development, full stop. That is it. They are not doing a character analysis of the applicant.

    Could you imagine if development officers needed to review the history and personal attributes of every person that applied for a permit? Every permit would take years to process. Could you imagine, as Moahunter stated, the opportunities for abuse there?

    The system is as it exists for a reason. The development officer approves or refuses an application based on the merit of that application.
    you do know that's not entirely accurate don't you?

    in issuing any permit - discretionary or not - the city is able to attach conditions, some of which are taken for granted (such as having to take out building permits for the completion of any work necessary or having to secure occupancy permits and business licenses prior to using the space for the approved use, discretionary or not). some of these are actually preprinted on the approved permit forms while others that are more specific to the permit at hand are written on the specific permit but in both cases the permit is conditional upon those things being complied with. some of those things can include the following:

    a police information check that has to be submitted for anyone applying for their license.

    a police information check that has to be submitted for all primary managers, owners, partners, directors, and officers of any corporation applying for the license.

    requiring applicants to pass a information courses to learn about the standards, regulations, and laws that will apply to them.

    requiring a client management plan, noise control plan, security plan and safety medical plan to be submitted with the complexity of those plans determined by the activities occurring both in and around the location.

    requiring a recommendation from the edmonton police service before being approved or denied.

    there are lots of tools in the city's tool kit over and above those granted to a development officer in isolation or those exercised by sdab. they all need to be brought to bear in a coordinated response intended to achieve results, not a series of responses intended to avoid responsibility by those making them and the development officer needs to be empowered to use what he already has the ability to use.
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    ^ There is a disconnect between what you and I are saying here. I'm not suggesting that conditions do not exist. My understanding is that conditions are, if proper, supposed to be related to the proposed use of the land in light of the suitability of the site. If there is nothing to suggest that the site is unsuitable for the range of uses proposed in the application (as referenced in LUB 11.2 9), then I disagree that the DO should attach extreme conditions or refuse the application.

    Again, you might find a different interpretation tomorrow if you challenge it. I think that the currently accepted interpretation is pretty straightforward and obvious in its intent - to tie the DO to decisions based on the site and the application in order to prevent improper discrimination (and corruption, but don't say that word). This is the interpretation the City is going with as well, and I think it is for very good reason.

    The conditions you noted are, as far as I know, utilized for major/complex class B developments. Due to the complexity and scale of the development and the difficulty in understanding potential impacts, you need additional conditions to ensure that the proposed use of the site fits.

    Hey, I might be wrong. I take a very narrow view of the powers granted in the MGA and conveyed through the LUB. Some places are challenging other powers in the MGA, and you never know what will happen. In this case though either way, I think it is improper and a waste of resources to take this route when there are other more straightforward solutions (he IS violating other bylaws and committing nuisances).

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    ‘It’s been 22 years of neighbourhood patrol’: Central Edmonton resident fed up with declining state of area
    A Parkdale-Cromdale resident wants to move out of the area, saying she’s had enough.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2159516/it...state-of-area/
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    ^ the sad part is, as the other neighbour said in the piece, a block away the neighbourhood is just fine. Issues that come up with problem properties generally have a localized effect neighbours. One neighbour who backs on to the Pervez properties noted that on the front street her neighbour across the street had no idea that these problems were even happening. But for those affected it can be extremely frustrating and discouraging to have to deal with this stuff
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    Calgary seems to be able to deal with problem landlords..

    Landlord faces fines for health and safety infractions at rental properties

    A judge will decide on Thursday whether to accept a joint submission for what he suggested was a low $42,000 fine for a landlord who has pleaded guilty to 48 charges under the Public Health Act for numerous infractions at her four northwest Calgary rental properties.

    http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/...al-properties#
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    Perhaps if someone took a picture of a sad puppy in one of these houses, it would get more of a reaction.

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    I'm sure Carmen has has more then 200 infractions on his houses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snake eyes View Post
    perhaps if someone took a picture of a sad puppy in one of these houses, it would get more of a reaction.
    qft!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 240GLT View Post
    Calgary seems to be able to deal with problem landlords..

    Landlord faces fines for health and safety infractions at rental properties

    A judge will decide on Thursday whether to accept a joint submission for what he suggested was a low $42,000 fine for a landlord who has pleaded guilty to 48 charges under the Public Health Act for numerous infractions at her four northwest Calgary rental properties.

    http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/...al-properties#
    Top_Dawg will point out that it doesn't mattter if it's Calgary, Edmonton, Nojack, or Tawatinaw.

    These charges are under thde Public Health Act.

    Which is administered by AHS.

    A provincial responsibility.

    Has nothing to do with municipal bylaws, zoning, development permits, etc.

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    ^ which the city should be working with, alongside municipal bodies like EPS, community standards and bylaw

    Many if not most complaints to AHS get escalated through municipal agencies
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    Quote Originally Posted by 240GLT View Post
    ^ which the city should be working with, alongside municipal bodies like EPS, community standards and bylaw

    Many if not most complaints to AHS get escalated through municipal agencies
    You may be right.

    But Top_Dawg is not so sure about that.

    From what Top_Dawg has heard, it's largely a complaint driven system.

    Kind of like restaurant inspections.

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    In my experience with housing, it's usually a group such ad the NET team, or the SCAN team (and yes that's provincial, but the municipality has to get them involved) or community standards that usually escalates these issues to AHS. Those calls are usually part of a larger concerted effort
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    Another potential change that I think would be advantageous is to tack on increased fines for repeat offenses. I know this has been talked about for problem dogs, 911 abusers etc. There is no such provision that I can see in bylaw 14600.

    Clearly the profit incentive of running slum properties is higher than the cost of fines and properties being condemned periodically. The obvious solution is to continue enforcing the fines and health/safety regs, but increase fines with continued offenses.

    Taking a quick glance at the community standards bylaw, the CAO also has the direct authority to order a landowner to remedy issues related to nuisance properties.

    48 (1) If the City Manager believes, on reasonable grounds, that a person
    is contravening any provision of this bylaw, the City Manager
    may, by written order, require any person responsible for the
    contravention to remedy it.

    (2) The order may:
    (a) direct a person to stop doing something, or to change the
    way in which the person is doing it;
    (b) direct a person to take any action or measures necessary to
    remedy the contravention of the bylaw and, if necessary, to
    prevent a re-occurrence of the contravention;
    (c) state a time within which the person must comply with the
    directions;
    (d) state that if the person does not comply with the directions
    within a specified time, the City will take the action or
    measure.
    Why is this not being used? Far more obvious authority to blame than murky potential twisted powers of a development officer. Why aren't people pointing at this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 240GLT View Post
    ^ which the city should be working with, alongside municipal bodies like EPS, community standards and bylaw

    Many if not most complaints to AHS get escalated through municipal agencies
    You may be right.

    But Top_Dawg is not so sure about that.

    From what Top_Dawg has heard, it's largely a complaint driven system.

    Kind of like restaurant inspections.
    You are right top dawg its complaint driven only. I've been outside my house talking to workers with ahs and pointed at places 3-4 doors down and they literally shrug their shoulders. Unless I phone in the problem they will not act without those marching papers. Scan from my experience will only get involved most of the time from complaints also. Eps don't want to look like udder crap so they don't want scan involved and don't put in the recommendations. I had scan on my block last year and a plain clothed individual just sat in an older truck banker hrs sleeping. Real good that is!

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    ^ it is complaint driven but it depends on who's making the complaint. I don't think that the majority of cases where slum housing is shut dow is done because a neighbour complained, it's usually part & parcel of a larger investigation. And unfortunately it seems like it can take months if not years to get to that point sometimes
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    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/edmo...ence-1.3189763

    Our guest for the evening Carmen pervez. Even a bigger scoundrel then I thought. Maybe the rumours of him paying his workers with pint( meth) might have some merit?( I live central and know talk to people that have done work for this guy) For the record I live within 3 of his shacks in a block radius and he does not rent to elderly, and there was 1 family in the one place( one of the residents would be blazing a crack pipe steady all the time in his truck! )

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    Titanium48, this may answer your question. From the article:

    Pervez told CBC he owns about 100 rental properties in the Edmonton area. But he said he can't open bank account or have a credit card in his own name, and can't get bank loans.

    All of his properties, he said, have "private" mortgages.
    Our stellar champion of the poor and homeless:


    "Nothing was given to me," he said. "I used to get my clothes at Bissell Centre. That's who I am. This is my way of giving back to where I was once. I understand these people because I was there once."

    He said people see him driving an expensive car and make assumptions.
    Yes, very stellar:


    His lengthy criminal record dates from 1983.

    In February 1991 he was charged with five counts of trafficking cocaine. He was convicted on all charges in November 1994 and sentenced to four years in prison.

    Paroled in June 1997, Pervez was apprehended that August trying to sneak into the United States under an assumed name.

    Five years later, he was charged in a $30-million fraud scheme. He pleaded guilty to 54 charges of fraud and 19 charges of possession of property obtained by crime.

    Pervez and his companies netted $1,811,942 from the complex fraud.

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    Walking out of a casino with $120000? Is this legitimate or are the cops choosing to not pursue criminal investigation for money laundering? Oh wait wasn't something said about intimidating eps members and their family's?

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    ^ casinos are notoriously known as good places to launder money

    On your last point, I am privy to those details but unfortunately can't share them other than to say that if any of us did what was done in this instance I guarantee we'd have gone to jail for it
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    Oh my goodness - I just saw on the news what this guy looks like, and I recognize him. I had words with him years ago regarding a (now demolished) slum house he used to run on my street.

    And all he complained about was that there were "too many laws they were making him follow all the time." I argued because I happened to be working in environmental public health at the time. He was sketchy as hell.

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    Guys like him don't change their stripes, as his parole report said.

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    Careful with the libel guys
    be offended! figure out why later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Eyes View Post
    Titanium48, this may answer your question. From the article:

    Pervez told CBC he owns about 100 rental properties in the Edmonton area. But he said he can't open bank account or have a credit card in his own name, and can't get bank loans.

    All of his properties, he said, have "private" mortgages.
    Our stellar champion of the poor and homeless:


    "Nothing was given to me," he said. "I used to get my clothes at Bissell Centre. That's who I am. This is my way of giving back to where I was once. I understand these people because I was there once."

    He said people see him driving an expensive car and make assumptions.
    Yes, very stellar:


    His lengthy criminal record dates from 1983.

    In February 1991 he was charged with five counts of trafficking cocaine. He was convicted on all charges in November 1994 and sentenced to four years in prison.

    Paroled in June 1997, Pervez was apprehended that August trying to sneak into the United States under an assumed name.

    Five years later, he was charged in a $30-million fraud scheme. He pleaded guilty to 54 charges of fraud and 19 charges of possession of property obtained by crime.

    Pervez and his companies netted $1,811,942 from the complex fraud.
    A prime example of why penalties for financial crimes should be financial in nature. Putting him in jail did nothing for the community. Seizing assets to repay the defrauded money and pay the costs of investigating and prosecuting his crimes would have been a better alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardW View Post
    Careful with the libel guys
    As if he has any good reputation to defend.

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    ^ exactly.. Carmen doesn't need our help ruining his reputation, he's done a good job of that all on his own
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by richardW View Post
    Careful with the libel guys
    As if he has any good reputation to defend.
    Well, the pivotal question is, would a judge think Carmen has a reputation left to defend? What we might think on a message board, and what a court would actually say, could be two different things.

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    I wonder if Shah/Pervez has ever been audited by Revenue Canada.
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    Good news.. Executive committee meeting today with S.D.,C.S., EPS, SCAN and ALERT to discuss an action plan for dealing with negligent landlords. Tony, Scott and Ed pushing the issue. Many community leagues backing the PCCL, Keeping the momentum going
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Be careful about making specific claims about this character or his actions, otherwise you're potentially exposing yourself and the site to legal action.
    Whelp, in reviewing business prospects today, I came across a statement of claim filed against the Parkdale-Cromdale Community league by Abdullah Shah. It says there are 13 defendants, but only lists two others: "Svillv8" and 240GLT. Who the others are, I don't know. Sorry to see. But it just goes to show you that words have consequences. I'm sure the claim has little or no merit, but in any case it could still result in thousands of dollars of legal bills for those named. I wonder who else is listed?
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    ^The defendants are listed under their C2E handles? (Or something like: "John Doe also known as 240GLT"?) I haven't seen anything like that before, but I haven't dabbled in defamation suits either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesL View Post
    ^The defendants are listed under their C2E handles? (Or something like: "John Doe also known as 240GLT"?) I haven't seen anything like that before, but I haven't dabbled in defamation suits either...
    Just handles.

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    Someone PM'd me to ask about specifics. I don't have any. This is what I responded to them with:

    "There's nothing specific. Business Prospects just lists statements of claim with very generic information. The action number is listed as "1503 12811". Defendants specifically listed are the community league, 240GLT, Swillv8, and the next column says there's 13 defendants. So fair bet that numerous people from the thread who said anything about him have been named. Hell, I might be too. Plaintiff is listed as Abdullah Shah, the amount is $1,000,000, and it was filed August 27th.

    That's the entirety of information listed."

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    ^a lot of people will be re-examining their posts I guess, interesting. I'm guessing it wouldn't be the first time that NIMBY action has lead to defamation charges. Maybe the thread should be locked?

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    $10 court search fee plus photocopying charges will get you a copy of the Statement of Claim, assuming you weren't already served! (And given that C2E handles were listed as defendants, I'm guessing service will be a bit of a problem for the plaintiff.)

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    Usually it is C2E itself that has been hit with defamation lawsuits, not individual posters.
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    ^lol, if you make acquisitions against someone that you can't support / prove, I don't see why you should be upset if you get sued over them. If you can prove or support them, you have nothing to fear. Some quite wild claims on this thread though, IMO.

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    Judging by some of the comments and eyewitness accounts stated by a number of people over the years in the affected communities, I don't think it would be tough to find support for the comments in this thread.

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    One question, do the Parkdale or Cromdale Community Leagues have to spend more money in legal costs challenging questionable developments? That's definitely not fair to the residents of those communities.
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    ^if they didn't break the law, and can prove that, they can probably get compensation for their legal costs if they go to court and they win (I think). If they did break the law and slander this individual, then yes, they will be out of pocket. It's perfectly fair - the moral is, don't make claims against an individual you can't prove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^lol, if you make acquisitions against someone that you can't support / prove, I don't see why you should be upset if you get sued over them. If you can prove or support them, you have nothing to fear. Some quite wild claims on this thread though, IMO.
    lol indeed. would that apply equally to some of the quite wild claims within your posts on this site as well as those you're referencing in this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^if they didn't break the law, and can prove that, they can probably get compensation for their legal costs if they go to court and they win (I think). If they did break the law and slander this individual, then yes, they will be out of pocket. It's perfectly fair - the moral is, don't make claims against an individual you can't prove.
    really? or is that a "do as i say, not do as i do" position?
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    ^lol, if you can find posts where I slandered an individual (obvious exception one of the many heated personal debates that pop up from time to time between posters), then go ahead. There is a difference between opinion on motivations, or even intellect, or even suggesting a conspiracy, and claiming as a fact somebody is doing something that they aren't.

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    Interesting "Letter to Mayor Iveson" in this month's rat creek press that rings a little too true for my family's experiences in a mature neighborhood.
    http://www.ratcreek.org/

    Twenty-one years ago, I bought a house in Parkdale. I was working at Lurana Shelter, so couldn’t afford much but I loved my little house and I loved my not so little yard where I could have a dog. I grew to love my little block and my neighbours. Like “Nona” who built her house on this street with her husband. when they came from Italy and raised their family. The house she still lives in, where she still spends every day tending her garden and dispensing invaluable gardening advice to her neighbours. Like her son, Nick, who got married and bought a house on the same street as his parents where he and Julia have raised their own wonderful family. Like Ernie who shovels our walks in the winter and on his garage sale travels picks up little things he thinks my girls would like. Like Lina, who has the most beautiful flowers in her front yard and brings some to my girls for them to plant in their garden.
    However, my neighbourhood also had challenges. When my stepdaughter came to live with us, I decided I’d better get involved and help make this a better community for her. So I got involved with the community league. And the neighbourhood patrol. And the business association. And PAAFE. And countless committees. Hours and hours and hours of time. We saw some positive changes. Then I had two more girls. And this little house started to feel pretty little so we thought about moving. But how could we leave our neighbours? Do we want to spend more time driving? We are just so close to everything!
    So, we just got cozy and settled in and worked where we could to keep the community moving in a positive direction. We worked on stadium issues. We worked on problem properties. We wrote letters, and when that didn’t work, more sternly worded letters. And on we went in our little house in our little neighbourhood.
    When Carmen Pervez/Abdullah Shah and his crew start buying houses in our community, we organized and talked to our councilor and called bylaw and called EPS. They apply for permits and we fight those permits. Even when we win, they continue to operate them and the city can do nothing, we are told, to stop it.
    One of Mr. Pervez’s associates told me that the Red Alert gang is watching me. Last year, after we were successful at a SDAB hearing against Mr. Pervez, he came to my house in his Lamborghini and sat revving his engine for at least three minutes while I was outside.
    Despite this, I agreed to talk to the Edmonton Journal for an article last November. In the course of her investigation, Elise Stolte spoke to a tenant who told her of horrific conditions and fear. I told her I would help him. I’m the Executive Director of Dickinsfield Amity House, and I felt I had the skills to assist. With the help of the wonderful staff at Brian Mason’s office we got him and his roommate out to a safe place and found them a new apartment where they paid less for a much better place.
    To date, I’ve been contacted by at least a dozen people, current and former tenants, who tell me stories of the conditions and treatment by these slumlords. Tenants spoke of high rent (at least $850 per tiny room) in a building with at least eight units. They need assistance to get out, or get their damage deposits back, or sometimes they just want to tell their story. I am only telling you this because Pervez and his associates portray themselves as offering housing to the downtrodden. In my opinion, they are exploiting vulnerable people and putting them and surrounding communities at risk.
    Why am I writing to you?
    Because after 22 years in which I volunteered, helped my neighbours, contributed to my community, worked in nonprofits serving the city’s vulnerable for very little financial reward, I am ready to leave Edmonton.
    I spent my August long weekend getting signatures on petitions and talking to neighbours and preparing for a SDAB hearing. We lost. They get to have their illegal suite become legal. The same suite where EPS arrested a bunch of very bad guys and found seven handguns and who knows how much drugs. This is a block away from where my nine-year-old plays in the yard with my dog. I just can’t do this. I am fighting against my own city.
    When I went to my childhood home in St. Albert, my dad told me that he was very frustrated with the city, because the drainage near his house is almost nonexistent. Drainage. My dad is frustrated with a puddle! I thought, this could be my life. I could be mad about a puddle. Not because my daughters see way more than any child should. Not because my city allows the vulnerable and communities to be abused over and over. Not because I have to leave my house during an event in a city-owned facility for which inadequate community protection is provided.
    Not because, in spite of research and the example from cities all over the world, my city continues to concentrate services and poverty to the detriment of everyone. Not because I have given years of my time–time away from my family that I’ll never get back–in vain, trying to make difference. But I could be mad about a puddle.
    And I thought back to how much time my parents had to spend away from me to make our neighbourhood safe. None. My neighbourhood was safe. And so I wonder, why? Why am I doing this? And I decided I can’t. I need to live somewhere that is just safe. Without me fighting, calling, letter writing, petitioning. Just safe.
    So, after 22 years, I am going to be preparing this beautiful little house, filled with memories, to sell. And I will move back to my childhood home. And my children will play out side, and not take pictures of blood on sidewalks. And not tell stories at school of the “squat” team who ran into a house on their street with their guns out. And I will be mad about a puddle. But I will feel sad that nothing has changed for the people I’ll leave behind. Sad for this community that is far too often forgotten. Sad for the city I loved, the city which allows slumlords to profit while communities suffer.
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    Coun. Scott McKeen sued by controversial Edmonton landlord
    http://www.metronews.ca/news/edmonto...-landlord.html


    An Edmonton landlord who has been publicly criticized for the condition of his properties is now suing his detractors, including community league members and Coun. Scott McKeen.

    Abdullah Shah, formerly known as Carmen Pervez, has launched a $1-million suit against McKeen, Parkdale resident Tracy Patience, Alberta Avenue Community league member Cris Basualdo and resident Chris Wagner.

    The suit also names three anonymous commenters on the website connect2edmonton.com

    In a statement of claim, which contains allegations not yet proven in court, Shah charges community members conspired to hurt his business by petitioning against the secondary suite permits he was seeking and by maligning him on social media and in letters to Mayor Don Iveson.

    He also accuses Coun. McKeen of targeting city resources at him.

    “McKeen used his position as a councillor with the City of Edmonton to cause a selective targeting of properties, in which the plantiff is interested, for enforcement action,” reads the claim.

    The suit also points to a Facebook post from McKeen that, without naming Shah, points to a problem landlord.

    “There is one street in McCauley that was under siege because of this man and his properties. Our folks have lined up all the relevant agencies to inspect and target his properties.”

    In a prepared statement, McKeen said he was advocating for his constituents, but declined to comment in too much depth.

    “My comments were made in the spirit of standing up for communities and helping a citizen understand that city staff is working hard to enforce the safe housing bylaws. I’m confident the truth will prevail, but I respect the courts and will not comment further.”

    Basualdo declined to comment.
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    Hopefully the city will spend a lot on lawyers and get to recover costs after a successful defense against a spurious claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium48 View Post
    Hopefully the city will spend a lot on lawyers and get to recover costs after a successful defense against a spurious claim.
    unfortunately, even if you do recover "costs", those are based on set tariffs and will almost never provide the successful party with anything approaching a reimbursement of the actual costs that will have been incurred. you may be able to countersue in a separate action but that's not inexpensive either. and that probably still won't include other internal costs including loss of productivity because everyone could be doing better things with their time...
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    The "suit also names three anonymous commenters on the website connect2edmonton.com" brought me to this thread...

    It's disappointing how the city turns a blind eye to some areas.

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    Imagine 1 million spent on great deals in our inner city. 20% down payment turns into 5million worth of property approximately in total. Translates approximately 20 houses that can be acquired

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    Loose lips sink ships people should really dummy up what you print you can't take back. Courts look at libel seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium48 View Post
    Hopefully the city will spend a lot on lawyers and get to recover costs after a successful defense against a spurious claim.
    unfortunately, even if you do recover "costs", those are based on set tariffs and will almost never provide the successful party with anything approaching a reimbursement of the actual costs that will have been incurred. you may be able to countersue in a separate action but that's not inexpensive either. and that probably still won't include other internal costs including loss of productivity because everyone could be doing better things with their time...
    I wonder if a class action lawsuit by the COE, community leagues and residents would be doable? Fight fire with a flamethrower
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    The statement of claim is listed on this metro article for anyone who wants to read: http://www.metronews.ca/news/edmonto...-landlord.html

    Kind of comical that the first argument that the parties were in "agreement" to damage him is organizing a petition to the SDAB. This is a completely legal, accepted, and even encouraged form of public participation. I find it very strange that the lawyer believes a judge is going to rule against people for petitioning the SDAB.

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    There is a public meeting tomorrow evening (7 to 9 pm) on the topic of problem properties at the Ital Canadian Seniors Association (9110-110 Avenue).

    More info here: https://3c63791e-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites....attredirects=0

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    if we can't attend the public meeting, could we get the minutes or more info (ideas, decisions, action plans, ...) from the meeting?

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    Just three weeks after a landlord won permission for a basement suite in a Parkdale rental house — nearly a year after city staff first inspected it — the province’s health authority has found the whole house unfit for human habitation.
    “Our people haven’t got a clue what the hell they’re doing,” said Coun. Tony Caterina, floored that none of the health problems were highlighted by city staff.
    A health inspector found a strong sewer smell. The basement clearance was only five-feet-six inches in some areas, the shower nozzle was attached with adhesive tape, smoke detectors weren’t working, many windows had insect screens missing and the basement windows were too small to be used to escape a fire.
    Several core neighbourhoods have been struggling with problem rentals for years and even so, city staff used their discretion to issue a development permit when this lot was too small to meet zoning bylaw requirements.

    The property belongs to Abdullah Shah, who changed his name from Carmen Pervez after he got out of jail in 2010 for mortgage fraud.
    He owns a string of rental properties and rooming houses on 86th Street, north of 112th Avenue, and has previously told the appeal board he owns 100 houses in Edmonton.

    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...lth-inspection
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    ^ It's shocking that this even had to go to the appeal board. If something as simple and easy to verify like window sizes did not meet the city's standards, how did it pass development? Or maybe it was a conditional approval and the city inspectors hadn't made it out yet? It's not like the windows were fine when the city inspected it and then he ripped them out and put smaller ones in.

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    I was just wondering what's the outcome/status of the lawsuit? Was the appeal to his basement suite rental appealed successful? Will he be able to rent out that house?

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    Not sure if this is the house in question?

    http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/10/1...s-front-window
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    Does anyone know when the trial for the lawsuit will happen?
    Edmonton first, everything else second.

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    No. I'm talking about the old house he recently bought on 112 ave 84 St very near Stadium LRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Does anyone know when the trial for the lawsuit will happen?
    For every hundred lawsuits filed, I doubt even one goes to trial. The purpose is usually to create libel chill. Lawyers will normally advise defendants in lawsuits to refrain from speaking out further lest they compound the defamation. The advantage in civil lawsuits is definitely with the person that has the deepest pockets.

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    Yeah, if it ever went to trial, a hundred steps would have to be completed first -- affidavits of records, questionings, answers to undertakings, some possible interlocutory motions or even applications for summary judgment/dismissal, maybe a crack at a court-mandated ADR process, etc, etc. These things can drag on for years.

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    wow...so during this period the slumlord can still continue to rent out his houses, despite the facts that it is unfit for habit and causing some social concerns around the neighborhood?

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    No. The trial is a different issue than shutting down properties. That is done through the normal process of bylaw and health standards enforcement.

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    ^^We were discussing the defamation/libel lawsuit, not some other proceeding.

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    What's the status on the shutdown of the properties?

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    This lawsuit must be why 240GLT hasn't been online for a while.
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    Personally, I'd be very careful about how I comment on the shutdown issue. And I think SDM is absolutely correct.

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    I haven't never thought that posting a reply or providing update/info on an issue can incur legal action or any litigation of any sorts? What happens to freedom of speech or information?

    240GLT, any updates/status on the lawsuit? I am very interested to find out how this turn out.

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    It could be that GLT's legal reps advised him not to post until the lawsuit is settled. You always hear "can't comment because it's before the courts" from spokespersons of entities being sued.
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    Just wondering how can the slumlord suit users here in C2E? How can he trace our true identity? The info we provide here on site is not necessarily true? I could be just another Joe Doe with fake identity.

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    ^traceable by IP address. Not that complicated.

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    Yes, I understand that you can trace IP address. But that's assuming you log on with a private IP/computer all the times. Many times people log in with public computer. Even at home, your IP changes from time to time.

    Even if you can trace back to one and only one IP, it would be EXTREMELY difficult to prove that you are the true user. You could have easily denied that your computer's been hacked or someone (ie. friend, neighbor, family) been using the computer since it is a shared, open computer at home.

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    Edmonton's chief of zoning bylaws and enforcement resigns

    The City of Edmonton’s branch manager for current planning is the latest high-level city executive to step down, leaving behind several contentious portfolios.

    Scott Mackie tendered his resignation last week and leaves Nov. 13.

    Mackie’s job includes responsibility for new regulations legalizing Uber, site specific approvals such as those for Oliver’s Molson site and the Healy Ford site towers, and enforcement on many infill development construction issues.

    “This was certainly his choice and we wish him well, sorry to see him go,” acting city manager Linda Cochrane said. She took over after city manager Simon Farbrother was let go in September.

    “(Mackie) had a big branch, a big job, lots of city building in it,” she said.

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    What's the impact on this infill issue? What's the implication of this high-level city executive stepping down?

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    Police charge an Edmonton landlord with numerous drug charges and improper storage of ammunition
    http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/12/2...-of-ammunition

    A notorious inner-city landlord has been arrested once again by Edmonton police and is facing drug charges.

    Police confirmed convicted mortgage fraudster Gohar Ahmed Carmen Pervez, who also goes by the name Abdullah Shah, was arrested on Dec. 24 and charged with multiple counts of possession of drugs for the purpose of trafficking and improper storage of ammunition.

    The charges stem from the execution of a search warrant.

    Pervez was jailed for two years after pleading guilty to 54 fraud charges in 2008, receiving roughly $1.8 million through a multi-million dollar mortgage fraud scheme.

    After serving his time, Pervez returned to his business of buying derelict properties, fixing them up and renting them out and eventually selling them for a profit.

    As of last year, Pervez owned more than 90 properties in Edmonton, most of them in the McCauley neighbourhood.

    Neighbours living in the area of his property have complained about unsafe working conditions and have accused some of Pervez’s tenants of illegal or threatening activity.

    In August, an Edmonton appeal board heard from residents worried that new units in a building owned by Pervez would bring crime and disorder.
    Some of Pervez’s properties have been either partially shut down or condemned by Alberta Health.

    That being said, some of Pervez’s tenants have come to his defence, some saying that when they were homeless or let out of jail they were able to get back on their feet while living in Pervez’s affordable units when other agencies wouldn’t or couldn’t help.
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    Well I hope in a court of law the Edmonton police service are able to get their guy if actually guilty. I wonder if there are possessions that may be confiscated from proceeds of crime?
    So some of the rumours I have heard may be true after all? Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law

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    This guy is another loser who I would happily put out on that iceberg in the ocean and tell to "figure it out."
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    Perhaps the maggot will be too busy with his many recent drug charges to worry about suing internet posters because they think he's scum.

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    Journal story:
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    A well-known inner city landlord once convicted for mortgage fraud is facing more than a dozen drug and weapons charges, Edmonton police say.

    Abdullah Shah, 53, formerly known as Carmen Pervez and Gohar Pervez, was arrested during a vehicle stop and search warrant execution on Christmas Eve after police allegedly found drugs and evidence of trafficking as well as an an “edged weapon” in the vehicle, Edmonton police confirmed Tuesday.

    Officers also searched a business property in the area of 93rd Street and 111th Avenue and seized drugs and ammunition.
    Shah is facing 13 counts of drug possession for the purpose of trafficking; one count of possession of stolen property over $5,000; one count of possession of an offensive weapon dangerous to the public; and one count of careless use of firearm, weapon, ammunition.

    He was released on a $10,000 cash bail and is scheduled to appear in court Jan. 13.

    Shah was charged in 2005 as the ringleader in a $30-million mortgage fraud scheme. Then known as Carmen Pervez, he pleaded guilty to 54 counts of fraud in 2008 and was sentenced to five years in prison. He was released in 2010 after credit for time served and changed his name to Abdullah Shah.

    He returned to Edmonton’s inner city as a landlord for 93 properties, some of which have come under public scrutiny.

    In September he launched a $1-million defamation lawsuit against city Coun. Scott McKeen, the Parkdale-Cromdale Community League, community critics and anonymous Internet commenters.
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    'and anonymous Internet commenters.'
    Ha
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    Carmen Pervez appears in court today (Jan 13). He also was re-arrested for breaching conditions of his bail.

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2426409/ed...-drug-charges/

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    So there is another rental property on my street that was just sold a few months ago, and now has become a hive of activity for all manners of sketchy people, 24 hours a day.

    Our neighbors have recently experienced a streak of break-ins or attempted break-ins to their homes/vehicles/garages by people coming and going from this property. I caught a guy trying to open my car door, and when I told him to stay away he told me (in a drugged-out state) that he was "looking for his dog". He was unfased when I threatened to call the police. Another neighbor confronted a burglar in his yard and got a knife pulled on him. These people are not intimidated, and are potentially dangerous.

    When I called police, all that happened was that a cruiser drove by about an hour later. The neighbors have also called police and the city and there has been zero change for weeks. Meanwhile everyone's homes, properties, and personal safety are under seige by an absentee landlord and scumbag tenants who give zero f**ks.

    What is the point of even having laws and police?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    What is the point of even having laws and police?
    I didn't know there was a law against renting your property to "sketchy" people. Your situation sucks, but that's a risk you take with any property investment, re the neighborhood (and this sort of thing can happen in any neighborhood, there are grow ops for example, in some of the "nicest").

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    ****** situation to be sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I caught a guy trying to open my car door, and when I told him to stay away he told me (in a drugged-out state) that he was "looking for his dog".
    But looking for his dog.

    In your car.

    That is funny.



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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    What is the point of even having laws and police?
    I didn't know there was a law against renting your property to "sketchy" people.
    That's not my complaint.

    Please try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    ****** situation to be sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I caught a guy trying to open my car door, and when I told him to stay away he told me (in a drugged-out state) that he was "looking for his dog".
    But looking for his dog.

    In your car.

    That is funny.



    Probly not for you.

    But Top_Dawg is jus' sayin'.
    Might have been the guy who was looking for his dog in my garage.

    At least it's better than the guy who thought " looking for a place to pee" was a good excuse for being in my yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    So there is another rental property on my street that was just sold a few months ago, and now has become a hive of activity for all manners of sketchy people, 24 hours a day.

    Our neighbors have recently experienced a streak of break-ins or attempted break-ins to their homes/vehicles/garages by people coming and going from this property. I caught a guy trying to open my car door, and when I told him to stay away he told me (in a drugged-out state) that he was "looking for his dog". He was unfased when I threatened to call the police. Another neighbor confronted a burglar in his yard and got a knife pulled on him. These people are not intimidated, and are potentially dangerous.

    When I called police, all that happened was that a cruiser drove by about an hour later. The neighbors have also called police and the city and there has been zero change for weeks. Meanwhile everyone's homes, properties, and personal safety are under seige by an absentee landlord and scumbag tenants who give zero f**ks.

    What is the point of even having laws and police?
    If you can find out who the owner is, a tactic some of neighbours adopted 20+ years ago to deal with a slum apartment building might help. They phoned the owner directly every time there was a disturbance.

    Especially in the middle of the night.

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    Finding out the name of the owner is easy. Just pull up a record using SPIN2:
    https://alta.registries.gov.ab.ca/spinii/logon.aspx

    It'll cost you $10 for the record, and can all be done online. Depending on what record you pull up, you can even get information about their mortgage. Use the maps.edmonton.ca website to look up the address and grab the Plan, Block/Unit and Lot information to use with SPIN2. I'd suggest getting the historical record, as it has more information on it. If you need help with it just send me a PM and I can walk you through it.

    I'd also suggest going to your local community station and talk to the officer behind the desk about your concerns. They're more in touch with the community, since they're often the ones taking reports, and they may have information to share with you, or at least some tips as to what you can do to help them better police the problem property.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Install some high powered motion sensor lights. Around your house, garage and yard. CPTED

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...rges-1.3514973

    Obviously he's innocent until proven guilty, but if these most recent allegations are true along with the charges from a few months back, it's pretty much time to lock the guy up and throw the key away. He's never going to be anything other than a criminal.

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    Pervez/Shah should be run out of this city!
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    He managed to retain significant assets after being convicted in a multi-million dollar fraud. I don't hold out much hope for a significant punishment if the current round of petty drug charges result in convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium48 View Post
    He managed to retain significant assets after being convicted in a multi-million dollar fraud. I don't hold out much hope for a significant punishment if the current round of petty drug charges result in convictions.
    No kidding
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    Which c2e member did he try to sue again?

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