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    https://nationalpost.com/news/smug-a...#comments-area

    Yes er ah we ah thanks for the donation get her out! Now I know what JWR felt!
    How to ruin your own brand, in just three years..

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    Yes er ah we ah thanks for the donation get her out! Now I know what JWR felt!
    How to ruin your own brand, in just three years..
    That really doesn't make him look good.

    These people showed up to plead with the Prime Minister because their entire community's drinking water is poisoned with mercury and nobody is doing anything to remedy it. To simply crack a tasteless joke about how the money they paid to get in is going into the Liberal coffers (and then the entire room laughing about it) is the most snobby, elitist thing Justin could've done in that situation.

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    It was a tasteless put-off not a joke. Trudeau was wrong and he had to apologise for his remarks.

    This problem was well known at Grassy Narrows since 1970 and all Ontario provincial and federal government for the past 50 years has been trying to sweep it under the rug and wait it out. In twenty years, they will stand in Parliament and make an official apology to the remaining last survivors.
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    ^That's the least of his worries now... https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wil...udio-1.5076563

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    Yes, I agree edTel.

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wil...udio-1.5076563

    Welp, I think it's now pretty clear that Wernick did step over the line in the recorded phone call. And Trudeau did as well in directing him to get the DPA done "one way or another". He's lost what little support left I had. The Liberal party shouldn't be talking about punting Wilson-Raybould or Philpott. They should be talking about booting their leader, at this point. I don't think he's going to be able to recover from this in time for the election, nor should he.

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    Now we know why the liberals voted against having people testify under oath. They didn't want them to be subject perjury charges when they lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
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    Welp, I think it's now pretty clear that Wernick did step over the line in the recorded phone call. And Trudeau did as well in directing him to get the DPA done "one way or another". He's lost what little support left I had. The Liberal party shouldn't be talking about punting Wilson-Raybould or Philpott. They should be talking about booting their leader, at this point. I don't think he's going to be able to recover from this in time for the election, nor should he.
    He won't recover, JWR showed, just how much he lied.

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    This whole SNC debacle will be the cross JT's re election campaign will die on. Nobody needs to be Nostradamus to figure that one out.
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    Sadly, the Trudeau family has a history of circumventing the law,( we all know that) and then publicly admiring themselves for it...

    Mr. Wernick said he understood JWR feelings, why did he not terminate the call at that juncture? He almost sounded scared of the tyrant JT, who yells at women...what a fake, JT is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Nope, just finding it interesting that the conservatives that are crying the loudest and calling for Trudeau to resign are the same ones that saw noting wrong with what Harper did.

    I'll say right now, that if Trudeau broke the law, and even Wilson-Raybould says that he didn't, then he should resign and be charged.

    However, H.L. and the like kept defending Duffy and Harper though the whole deal back then. Saw nothing wrong with it in the least.
    Harper got punted in the election. Shouldn't Trudeau then?

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    I was wondering about something. If Quebec brings in strict laws about religious wear will Jagmeet Singh be allowed to campaign in Quebec? He may have to wear an oversized toque and lumberjack shirt.

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    As for the SNC Lavelin affair. Iím sure it will blow over by election time and Prince Charming will win handily with his eastern votes. Keep in mind that the NDP will likely win zero seats in Quebec this time around and drop more here and there that will likely go to the liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I was wondering about something. If Quebec brings in strict laws about religious wear will Jagmeet Singh be allowed to campaign in Quebec? He may have to wear an oversized toque and lumberjack shirt.
    Isn't that stupid? Trust Quebec..
    I agree that passports or a licence, a face should be seen, but the rest is really stomach churning....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    As for the SNC Lavelin affair. Iím sure it will blow over by election time and Prince Charming will win handily with his eastern votes. Keep in mind that the NDP will likely win zero seats in Quebec this time around and drop more here and there that will likely go to the liberals.
    We'll see. I listened to Drex at night, and people all across Canada , some that voted liberal, are worried, plus quite a few said they are done with the liberal party..especially how JT swept any wrong doing on his part away, like it never happened...I suspect his new AG will be another yes person..

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Sadly, the Trudeau family has a history of circumventing the law,( we all know that) and then publicly admiring themselves for it...

    Mr. Wernick said he understood JWR feelings, why did he not terminate the call at that juncture? He almost sounded scared of the tyrant JT, who yells at women...what a fake, JT is.

    Harper was legendary for trying to ram through unlawful legislation.

    Including this partial list of 2012

    Order in the courts: The courts have ruled against the government on several important issues. More cases are coming.Safe injection sites
    National securities regulator
    Omar Khadr
    Mandatory minimums
    Assisted suicide
    Prostitution
    Detention of refugees
    Back-to-work legislation
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    Stephen Harper’s accidental legal legacy

    As Justin Trudeau begins his tenure, he follows a prime minister who was determined to unmake the Canada that Pierre Trudeau helped to create – by challenging the conventional wisdom that the 1982 Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as interpreted today by judges, sets stern boundaries for what government can do. So he made laws that seemed to give little ground to Charter rights, and changed how judicial appointments work as he sought judges considered less inclined to oppose his agenda.


    But Mr. Harper lost to the conventional wisdom. Even judges he had appointed struck down laws he had passed, such as those on mandatory jail terms or illegal drugs. "The balance of power shifted in the last decade even further towards judicial authority at the expense of parliamentary authority," Benjamin Perrin, a constitutional specialist who was the lead justice adviser in the Prime Minister's Office in 2012-2013, says in an interview with The Globe conducted by e-mail. "There is now no controversial social issue in which the court will not have a definitive role."


    In taking on judges and the rights charter, Mr. Harper bequeathed to the new Justice Minister, Jody Wilson-Raybould, multiple legal challenges in which her department is involved. The result could be a supreme irony: Unless she moves quickly – on refugee health cuts, on mandatory jail sentences that fall most heavily on aboriginal peoples, on a spate of laws that reduce judges' discretion – the Trudeau government will find that its justice-department lawyers are in court defending Harper-era policies whose goal was to remove perceived liberal bias from the justice system.
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    What about the other guy?

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    Didn't notley/JT approve the pipeline and it was stalled by Federal courts?

    Sheesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    The grass is always greener on the other side ... A more accurate story, would be "US dithers more on pipelines from Canada"

    How long was Keystone XL held up? Longer than Trans Mountain and Keystone XL is still not completed and still facing legal challenges.

    Then there is the Enbridge pipeline from Canada going through the US which faced challenges in Minnesota, which I think have now been resolved, but now face new challenges in Michigan which may lead to a further delay.

    If Keystone and the Enbridge pipelines went ahead on schedule, we wouldn't be facing the capacity problems we are now, so no it is not just Canadian delays that are causing our problems.

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    Keystone was Obama messing around, he could of said no, months prior. Did you read the article, I didn't write it, but obviously I'm not the only one that thinks JT is loving these hold ups...he doesn't like AB, and we( most of us) don't like him..
    He put no pressure on Enbridge, we have nobody with any oomph!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Keystone was Obama messing around, he could of said no, months prior. Did you read the article, I didn't write it, but obviously I'm not the only one that thinks JT is loving these hold ups...he doesn't like AB, and we( most of us) don't like him..
    He put no pressure on Enbridge, we have nobody with any oomph!
    My points in case you missed them are pipeline delays are not uncommon these days and not unique to Canada. Not all the pipeline projects in the US are proceeding smoothly either.

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    Don't you know? If Jason Kenney becomes premier, he'll simply make a couple of phone calls and the pipelines will all be under construction within 72 hours, the price of oil will be $125 a barrels, all the gay kids will find Jesus and become straight, immigrants will all become white, etc, etc, etc. Ucp paradise in the first week. All it takes is some oomph.

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    ^ ...and $400 in Kenney Bucks in every pot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Don't you know? If Jason Kenney becomes premier, he'll simply make a couple of phone calls and the pipelines will all be under construction within 72 hours, the price of oil will be $125 a barrels, all the gay kids will find Jesus and become straight, immigrants will all become white, etc, etc, etc. Ucp paradise in the first week. All it takes is some oomph.
    Cue the Oprah bees gif.... only with piplines.

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    Kenney came up with some good ideas during the debate, made Notley nervous, hope he makes the fake feminist nervous..

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    And what were those good ideas.

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    One of the problems with more progressive parties, be they progressive left or progressive right, is a tendency to "pick winners". Nobody minds too much when its a food bank or a shelter, or maybe even a game show in the US, but its a slippery slope. Before you know it, a party has picked some elites to form a committee to hand out money funded by public debt, and naturally, those elites will choose their elite friends for help. Like the Weston family, who get new refrigerators for their family businesses, all in the name of climate science, while regular folks and small businesses make do with old equipment:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ergy-efficient

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    One of the problems with more progressive parties, be they progressive left or progressive right, is a tendency to "pick winners". Nobody minds too much when its a food bank or a shelter, or maybe even a game show in the US, but its a slippery slope. Before you know it, a party has picked some elites to form a committee to hand out money funded by public debt, and naturally, those elites will choose their elite friends for help. Like the Weston family, who get new refrigerators for their family businesses, all in the name of climate science, while regular folks and small businesses make do with old equipment:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ergy-efficient
    That's ridiculous, the Weston's can buy their own damn freezers! People are pretty angry about this.
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    They should make it illegal.
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    He's not in the HOC, so he's spending..

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    Nothing really new here, but it always surprises me how many regular folks support the Federal Liberal party, which mostly exists to just keep an elite few families in power:

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal

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    Yes, but no different than the CPC....

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    Canada Revenue Agency writes off $133M owed by one taxpayer
    Tax agency refuses to identify person or corporation getting write-off
    The Canada Revenue Agency in 2017-18 wrote off $2.7 billion in taxes owed. That's the largest single-year sum written off by the CRA since the $2.8 billion it abandoned in both 2014-15 and 2013-14.

    The agency says that writing off a tax debt does not relieve a taxpayer of the obligation to pay ó but it does mean no legal action will be taken unless the taxpayer's situation improves.
    OK, OK, OK! I will admit, it was me who got the write-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    Nothing really new here, but it always surprises me how many regular folks support the Federal Liberal party, which mostly exists to just keep an elite few families in power:

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal
    Its not like Harper and the Conservatives never kicked any one out, spare us the hypocrisy. Diane Francis is a long time conservative shill and the National Post has been bashing the Liberals for the last 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Canada Revenue Agency writes off $133M owed by one taxpayer
    Tax agency refuses to identify person or corporation getting write-off
    The Canada Revenue Agency in 2017-18 wrote off $2.7 billion in taxes owed. That's the largest single-year sum written off by the CRA since the $2.8 billion it abandoned in both 2014-15 and 2013-14.

    The agency says that writing off a tax debt does not relieve a taxpayer of the obligation to pay ó but it does mean no legal action will be taken unless the taxpayer's situation improves.
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    I am taking bets that the corporation is..



    wait for it...





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    Trudeau and SNC-Lavalin scandal to be satirized on The Simpsons


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Canada Revenue Agency writes off $133M owed by one taxpayer
    Tax agency refuses to identify person or corporation getting write-off
    The Canada Revenue Agency in 2017-18 wrote off $2.7 billion in taxes owed. That's the largest single-year sum written off by the CRA since the $2.8 billion it abandoned in both 2014-15 and 2013-14.

    The agency says that writing off a tax debt does not relieve a taxpayer of the obligation to pay — but it does mean no legal action will be taken unless the taxpayer's situation improves.
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    I am taking bets that the corporation is..



    wait for it...





    It was for excise taxes and excise duties, so SNC wouldn't make sense. It's usually applied to alcohol, gas, tobacco, fuel inefficient vehicles and certain petroleum products. IT's applied to products made in Canada. Figure out what companies are maybe defunct now that made those things. My guess would be Chrysler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobleea View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Canada Revenue Agency writes off $133M owed by one taxpayer
    Tax agency refuses to identify person or corporation getting write-off
    The Canada Revenue Agency in 2017-18 wrote off $2.7 billion in taxes owed. That's the largest single-year sum written off by the CRA since the $2.8 billion it abandoned in both 2014-15 and 2013-14.

    The agency says that writing off a tax debt does not relieve a taxpayer of the obligation to pay ó but it does mean no legal action will be taken unless the taxpayer's situation improves.
    Link
    I am taking bets that the corporation is..



    wait for it...





    It was for excise taxes and excise duties, so SNC wouldn't make sense. It's usually applied to alcohol, gas, tobacco, fuel inefficient vehicles and certain petroleum products. IT's applied to products made in Canada. Figure out what companies are maybe defunct now that made those things. My guess would be Chrysler.
    Yes, I also read a news article that heavily hinted it was Chrysler. If so, can't blame Trudeau for that one, for those of you who like to blame him for everything.

    I am guessing by the wording by the Canada Revenue Agency it would be a company that is insolvent, not one still operating like SNC Lavalin. When they restructured Chrysler, I believe they had the old Chrysler (insolvent, with all the debt, but still technically around) and the new Chrysler which operated totally separately going forward without the debt burden.

    I suppose in both cases the government did unusual things and the argument came down to a significant number of jobs. I recall there was a large bail out years ago of Massey Ferguson, so when a large number of jobs in one company are in jeopardy it does get a lot of political attention regardless of who or what party is in power. When the jobs are distributed among a number of smaller companies or industries, not as much.

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    Tories win in PEI today? Greens second and Liberals third. Holee. Lib premier lost his own seat as well.

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    ^too busy surfing to care. If he cared as much about the environment as he profess too, he would have holidayed local, not flown across the country on earth day. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Tories win in PEI today? Greens second and Liberals third. Holee. Lib premier lost his own seat as well.

    Wow, I think the provinces are giving the liberals a big ole message ..

    Congrats to the PC party and the green party..
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    If Justin Trudeau doesn't realize the Liberal brand is being put on notice by now, he is hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    If Justin Trudeau doesn't realize the Liberal brand is being put on notice by now, he is hopeless.
    He's a bit thick, so I wouldn't count on it..
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    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    ^too busy surfing to care. If he cared as much about the environment as he profess too, he would have holidayed local, not flown across the country on earth day. Go figure.

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...nother-for-you
    That is quite the carbon footprint for a man who is imposing a carbon tax on the rest of us and constantly saying that we must reduce our own carbon footprint.!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?
    I'm not sure, I think they'll stay with JT..although they are starting to see him for the fake he is, which is music to my ears..
    His last lecture, lol... didn't go as well the last time he was there, largely due to the way he treated JWR..
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?
    I'm not sure, I think they'll stay with JT..although they are starting to see him for the fake he is, which is music to my ears..
    His last lecture, lol... didn't go as well the last time he was there, largely due to the way he treated JWR..
    It’s mostly disappeared from the news but this is an interesting article. However it’s really sad to see what essentially is now American lingo creeping into Canadian articles. Eg draining the swamp. It’s somewhat indicative of possible brainwashing vs legitimate thinking.

    The crushing of Wilson-Raybould and Philpott is proof Canada is run by a Liberal cabal | Financial Post

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    ^too busy surfing to care. If he cared as much about the environment as he profess too, he would have holidayed local, not flown across the country on earth day. Go figure.

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...nother-for-you
    That is quite the carbon footprint for a man who is imposing a carbon tax on the rest of us and constantly saying that we must reduce our own carbon footprint.!!!

    Fact!

    Yes, he could have gone surfing on the Ottawa river



    At leas Justin went surfing in Canada. You would have blown a gasket if he went surfing in Bali or Cuba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post

    Yes, he could have gone surfing on the Ottawa river



    At leas Justin went surfing in Canada. You would have blown a gasket if he went surfing in Bali or Cuba
    Or if he really cared about the environment when preaching too us all to change our ways / pay a price on pollution, he could stop surfing until he lives by an ocean or river that allows it. But, of course, being the PM, he doesn't need to sacrifice, only people struggling on the breadline who can only dream of such a surf trip, do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?
    I'm not sure, I think they'll stay with JT..although they are starting to see him for the fake he is, which is music to my ears..
    His last lecture, lol... didn't go as well the last time he was there, largely due to the way he treated JWR..
    Itís mostly disappeared from the news but this is an interesting article. However itís really sad to see what essentially is now American lingo creeping into Canadian articles. Eg draining the swamp. Itís somewhat indicative of possible brainwashing vs legitimate thinking.

    The crushing of Wilson-Raybould and Philpott is proof Canada is run by a Liberal cabal | Financial Post

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal
    People are way smarter and have longer memories, than you give them credit for. JWR has not been forgotten, and she's not out of the media. In fact , when Elizabeth May got married again, JWR was a guest and there was talk of her running for the Green party..
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?
    I'm not sure, I think they'll stay with JT..although they are starting to see him for the fake he is, which is music to my ears..
    His last lecture, lol... didn't go as well the last time he was there, largely due to the way he treated JWR..
    Itís mostly disappeared from the news but this is an interesting article. However itís really sad to see what essentially is now American lingo creeping into Canadian articles. Eg draining the swamp. Itís somewhat indicative of possible brainwashing vs legitimate thinking.

    The crushing of Wilson-Raybould and Philpott is proof Canada is run by a Liberal cabal | Financial Post

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal
    People are way smarter and have longer memories, than you give them credit for. JWR has not been forgotten, and she's not out of the media. In fact , when Elizabeth May got married again, JWR was a guest and there was talk of her running for the Green party..
    if people are way smarter and have longer memories than you think KC is giving them credit for, how - in the big picture - did we end up with the boy wonder as prime minister and how - in a smaller picture - does the country's finance minister "forget" he owns a chateau in france?
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    That's 7 Canadian provinces now with Conservative governments and Premiers.

    It looks like Newfoundland/Labrador provincial election is next. I wonder if they will flip conservative too?
    I'm not sure, I think they'll stay with JT..although they are starting to see him for the fake he is, which is music to my ears..
    His last lecture, lol... didn't go as well the last time he was there, largely due to the way he treated JWR..
    Itís mostly disappeared from the news but this is an interesting article. However itís really sad to see what essentially is now American lingo creeping into Canadian articles. Eg draining the swamp. Itís somewhat indicative of possible brainwashing vs legitimate thinking.

    The crushing of Wilson-Raybould and Philpott is proof Canada is run by a Liberal cabal | Financial Post

    https://business.financialpost.com/d...-liberal-cabal
    It is a very normal thing for provinces to switch parties after the Federal government does. For instance, after Harper won most of the provincial conservative governments were replaced by Liberal ones. I think it is to use another American term - our version of checks and balances. However, historically it usually means the voters intend on sticking with the Federal party in power for a while.

    I am fairly sure the National Post/Financial Post is a run by a Conservative cabal. All they seem to have done for the last 20 years is bash the liberals. Canada's Fox News wanna be.

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    I am fairly sure the National Post/Financial Post is a run by a Conservative cabal. All they seem to have done for the last 20 years is bash the liberals. Canada's Fox News wanna be.
    The National Post has never pretended it is the "Natural Governing Party of Canada". If it wasn't for the National Post, all of the media would be in the control of a few rich Liberal connected families, not just Canada's largest banks / corporations out East, and all the plumb Federal government and CBC positions. Have a look who the board members of the Trudeau Foundation are (a Bombardier director is on there)... its all a big Liberal insider party, that Harpers conservatives were probably the first to upend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I am fairly sure the National Post/Financial Post is a run by a Conservative cabal. All they seem to have done for the last 20 years is bash the liberals. Canada's Fox News wanna be.
    The National Post has never pretended it is the "Natural Governing Party of Canada". If it wasn't for the National Post, all of the media would be in the control of a few rich Liberal connected families, not just Canada's largest banks / corporations out East, and all the plumb Federal government and CBC positions. Have a look who the board members of the Trudeau Foundation are (a Bombardier director is on there)... its all a big Liberal insider party, that Harpers conservatives were probably the first to upend.
    Maybe if they made more effort to be balanced they would have more credibility when they cry wolf.

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    None of our media is balanced or unbiased.

    The sooner everyone comes to terms with the fact that journalists and news media outlets are all biased and need to be viewed with a highly skeptical eye, the better off we will all be.

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    None of our media is balanced or unbiased.

    The sooner everyone comes to terms with the fact that journalists and news media outlets are all biased and need to be viewed with a highly skeptical eye, the better off we will all be.
    It’s fun picking a current event and then comparing how it is reported. I’d love to have the time or see a professional comparison of event reporting.

    I’ve seen a whole lot of simple replication selected quotes and early spin but I’ve also noticed a lot of subtle substitution of words likely with the aim to use wording With biased connotations and sometimes I’ve even an evolution of the spin through ever more emotive or hyperbolic words and phrases and taking something further and further from the context.


    Years ago I subscribed to the Financial Post / National Post and really enjoyed seeing how they could spin survey results and other data. The data might show one thing but the article title and the write up would often try to make a very different point. Pretty blatant crap but they have their needs to see and report the world in a way that their readership, advertisers and managers desire. The messages have to confirm the underlying beliefs and ideology.

    Same thing likely goes for the rest of us. We all crave confirmation of our own wacky subjective views of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    None of our media is balanced or unbiased.

    The sooner everyone comes to terms with the fact that journalists and news media outlets are all biased and need to be viewed with a highly skeptical eye, the better off we will all be.
    I get that everyone has their own experience and views of the world. I am not expecting total perfection. I am just expecting some real and reasonable effort to present more than one side, particularly of journalists. It doesn't serve their readers or viewers well when their coverage is too slanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    None of our media is balanced or unbiased.

    The sooner everyone comes to terms with the fact that journalists and news media outlets are all biased and need to be viewed with a highly skeptical eye, the better off we will all be.
    I have stopped watching CBC, it's vomit worthy. Also, lots of complaints about the way they moderate( skew) their comment section
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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I am fairly sure the National Post/Financial Post is a run by a Conservative cabal. All they seem to have done for the last 20 years is bash the liberals. Canada's Fox News wanna be.
    The National Post has never pretended it is the "Natural Governing Party of Canada". If it wasn't for the National Post, all of the media would be in the control of a few rich Liberal connected families, not just Canada's largest banks / corporations out East, and all the plumb Federal government and CBC positions. Have a look who the board members of the Trudeau Foundation are (a Bombardier director is on there)... its all a big Liberal insider party, that Harpers conservatives were probably the first to upend.
    Seeing as the National Post is owned by the same American hedge fund that owns the National Enquirer....

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