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    Oh boy, doesn’t look like Trudeau have managed to advance Canada’s interest in G20:

    https://twitter.com/petermartin_pcm/...228384770?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Oh boy, doesn’t look like Trudeau have managed to advance Canada’s interest in G20:

    https://twitter.com/petermartin_pcm/...228384770?s=21

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    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
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    Sooo...BC can burn garbage and that’s not an issue, but burning hydrocarbons is??

    http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...f-eed696720db8

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
    Did you even bother to read the comments within the link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
    Did you even bother to read the comments within the link?
    Have to agree with you here. People should watch the whole video exchange, its quite clear then what transpired. Trudeau was not being ignored in that exchange, The attempt to make it look that way through edited video is misleading.

    If one only watches the first video its possible to be misled. In the subsequent comments a longer video showing the whole sequence is presented. It clarifies what took place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
    Did you even bother to read the comments within the link?
    Have to agree with you here. People should watch the whole video exchange, its quite clear then what transpired. Trudeau was not being ignored in that exchange, The attempt to make it look that way through edited video is misleading.

    If one only watches the first video its possible to be misled. In the subsequent comments a longer video showing the whole sequence is presented. It clarifies what took place.
    The guy* posting the video couldn’t even comprehend everyday common decency. Nor could H.L.

    It’s so incredibly sad that people’s primitive tribal mindsets so over-ride their ability to even present or see reality or if they do they try to concoct a lie out of it.


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    Thank you. Clearly it is not necessary to alter a video for deception. Merely stopping it "early" is sufficient.
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    Last edited by KC; 30-06-2019 at 09:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
    Did you even bother to read the comments within the link?
    Have to agree with you here. People should watch the whole video exchange, its quite clear then what transpired. Trudeau was not being ignored in that exchange, The attempt to make it look that way through edited video is misleading.

    If one only watches the first video its possible to be misled. In the subsequent comments a longer video showing the whole sequence is presented. It clarifies what took place.
    The guy* posting the video couldn’t even comprehend everyday common decency. Nor could H.L.

    It’s so incredibly sad that people’s primitive tribal mindsets so over-ride their ability to even present or see reality or if they do they try to concoct a lie out of it.


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    Thank you. Clearly it is not necessary to alter a video for deception. Merely stopping it "early" is sufficient.
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    Yep. Unfortunately the video is purposely misleading as well. Its cropped, altered, zeroing in on Trudeau while freeze framing a moment to make it look like Trudeau was being shunned, as if that portrayal was the basis of the exchange. So it is quite clearly willfully misleading. An attempt to exhibit something like that which is willfully dishonest to that which transpired is the only thing to see here. Thankfully people in that discussion have the patience to point it out with a longer video.
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    A good long-read from Globe & Mail for the fans of Trudeau’s foreign diplomacy “achievements”:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/resi...WF3CVG7GWE.jpg

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    And did Martin apologize or admit to his error in reposting?

    H.L., if you see this, we await your apology as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Jumping to conclusions I see...

    None of you were there, none of you saw anything within its context.
    Including you. He's bloody useless.
    Did you even bother to read the comments within the link?
    The comments? Why would I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GranaryMan View Post
    Sooo...BC can burn garbage and that’s not an issue, but burning hydrocarbons is??

    http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...f-eed696720db8

    Of course they can, greenies are hypocritical
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    They can cut trees, burn wood and coal, sell wood and coal, sell oil and gas too, a lot. They can drive and jet. YVR is the second busiest airport in the country. Over 60% of BCers support the pipeline though so Horgan has to represent his constituents eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    A good long-read from Globe & Mail for the fans of Trudeau’s foreign diplomacy “achievements”:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/resi...WF3CVG7GWE.jpg
    Your link leads to an image, not an article.

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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nage-1.5191054

    i guess some things never change.

    despite earlier promises for more transparency and qualification based selection, that seems to have gone the way of budgets that balance themselves.

    on the other hand, it seems that the actual criteria used in new brunswick are pretty much the same as those used to overrule his attorney general's pick for the supreme court of canada or selecting our since dis-credited previous ambassador to china. at least there's consistency at play here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    A good long-read from Globe & Mail for the fans of Trudeau’s foreign diplomacy “achievements”:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/resi...WF3CVG7GWE.jpg
    Your link leads to an image, not an article.

    Sorry, not sure what happened there. Let’s try one more time:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...t-can-reclaim/

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    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.
    Only 4 months left on it so at this point just ride it out..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.
    Only 4 months left on it so at this point just ride it out..
    We're going to have zero cap room though, so we're probably screwed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.
    Only 4 months left on it so at this point just ride it out..
    We're going to have zero cap room though, so we're probably screwed....
    Lets see if he spends his last few months screwing us over like Chiarelli did. Right of recall would be good now. heh
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    The Loonie "Soars" to 76 cents. Big whoop. Still 3 quarters back on the dollar.

    Soaring was perhaps more apt description when the Canabuck was worth 1.06 USD. A brief moment in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    The Loonie "Soars" to 76 cents. Big whoop. Still 3 quarters back on the dollar.

    Soaring was perhaps more apt description when the Canabuck was worth 1.06 USD. A brief moment in time.
    Again, I don’t credit politicians with much. Not much in terms of the economy. Not really anything in terms of the stock market. Not anything with interest rates. However that’s me.


    We have to live by the perceptions of the general public where a whole lot of people credit or criticize politicians base on all of those factors. It’s like consumers, central banks etc. don’t even exist or have no influence.

    So by conventional measures this is a huge win by the Liberals. If this were news while a conservative government were in power, every supporter would be jumping up and down claiming that their party deserves all the credit.
    Last edited by KC; 04-07-2019 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.
    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    The Loonie "Soars" to 76 cents. Big whoop. Still 3 quarters back on the dollar.

    Soaring was perhaps more apt description when the Canabuck was worth 1.06 USD. A brief moment in time.
    Just turn the clock back to 2007 and maybe we can hit $1.06 when the oil price hits $140 a barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    The Loonie "Soars" to 76 cents. Big whoop. Still 3 quarters back on the dollar.

    Soaring was perhaps more apt description when the Canabuck was worth 1.06 USD. A brief moment in time.
    Wait until all that business picks up with China, he has lots of ministers sucking up to them, while two of our men , rot away in some jail..!!

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/chin...-u-s-1.4491791

    China warns Canada..LOL, what a **** JT is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    Economy is a complex system and it is hard to pinpoint causes of growth, particularly in short term, with accuracy. However, recent data points seems to suggest credit does not belong to the federal government.

    The GDP report for April from Statistics Canada suggests Alberta growth, and in particular oil sands starting the pumps again, are the root of the recent Canadian economic boost:

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...90628a-eng.htm


    Oil sands extraction increased 11.0% as facilities scaled up production rather than undertaking maintenance activities, to take advantage of the easing of production restrictions.
    Timing of the report, showing activity during NDP reign suggest they should get the credit. This can be corroborated with an economic activity chart developed by Trevor Tombe which suggests Alberta recovery started around February.

    https://twitter.com/trevortombe/stat...299672576?s=21

    And February is when NDP first eased the production curtailment.

    https://www.alberta.ca/oil-production-limit.aspx

    Finally, keep in mind global oil prices were also rising in the first few months of the year.

    Conclusion: All the evidence suggests the Alberta NDP government, with a helping hand from rising oil prices, is to get the credit.

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    But Kenney will take the credit and Scheer will blame the Liberals.


    Alberta export numbers reach all-time high, with energy leading growth
    Beef exported to Japan is up after implementation of Trans-Pacific PartnershipAlberta monthly exports have reached an all-time high totalling $11.97 billion for the month of May.


    The bulk of the growth of exports came from the energy sector, accounting for $8.96 billion. That is up $1.8 billion over May of last year.


    "Alberta exports did reach their highest levels in history, and that's primarily on growth from energy products, primarily oil that we send to the United States. That is up significantly just in the past few months," said Trevor Tombe, an associate professor of economics at the University of Calgary.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...2019-1.5198833

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    Everyone expecting that the business-friendly Conservatives would wipe the floor with the NDP in an upcoming spring election likely helped.

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    yes that's why the O&G sector continues to layoff jobs in Alberta. Business-friendly... tax breaks for the elite and screwing everyone else over. Lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    I actually like Justin Trudeau, as a teacher or ski instructor. He seems like a good family man as well but I wish we could buy out his contract.


    More ammunition supporting Liberal claims that they are performing quite well:

    Loonie Soars as the Canadian Economy Firms While U.S. Wobbles - Bloomberg

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...le-u-s-wobbles
    Economy is a complex system and it is hard to pinpoint causes of growth, particularly in short term, with accuracy. However, recent data points seems to suggest credit does not belong to the federal government.

    The GDP report for April from Statistics Canada suggests Alberta growth, and in particular oil sands starting the pumps again, are the root of the recent Canadian economic boost:

    https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...90628a-eng.htm


    Oil sands extraction increased 11.0% as facilities scaled up production rather than undertaking maintenance activities, to take advantage of the easing of production restrictions.
    Timing of the report, showing activity during NDP reign suggest they should get the credit. This can be corroborated with an economic activity chart developed by Trevor Tombe which suggests Alberta recovery started around February.

    https://twitter.com/trevortombe/stat...299672576?s=21

    And February is when NDP first eased the production curtailment.

    https://www.alberta.ca/oil-production-limit.aspx

    Finally, keep in mind global oil prices were also rising in the first few months of the year.

    Conclusion: All the evidence suggests the Alberta NDP government, with a helping hand from rising oil prices, is to get the credit.
    Where governments deserve a lot of “credit” for economic numbers is in borrowing tens or hundreds of billions of dollars to dump into the economy today. It’s an easy way boost the numbers and look good in the short term. It’s a great way to save an economy from a downward spiral. However in good times it’s a riskier bet that the debt will generate higher returns than the costs - but that’s just a pesky burden future governments and if no concern to current politicians.
    Last edited by KC; 04-07-2019 at 08:08 AM.

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