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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    That's not exclusive to the Catholic religion, and wasn't promoted anywhere in that document of the Catholic school board.
    But it appears in their fundamental text that defines their belief.

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    It looks no worse than a lot of stuff in the Koran, but if this was a Muslim school, no doubt you would be calling it racism if someone spoke out against it.
    There you go again, putting words in my mouth after making yet another false assumption. You really are terrible at this whole debate thing.

    (I'm a secular humanist, remember?)
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    Servicing your husband without question? Are you for real? Where does that come from?
    Ephesians 5:21-25.
    Yes, I have read and heard Ephesians 5 many times. Usually it is read from verse 1-33. The homily that follows from the priest has never mentioned/taught that wives service their husbands at will. The message has always been about the love between husband and wife and the respect they must show each other. I have heard this from many different priests as I have attended many parishes. I cannot speak for other Christian denominations but Catholics do not interpret that as you are implying. In my opinion and lived experience.

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    ^its a little ironic that someone who believes that its fine for good Muslim women to be instructed to have their faces hidden from the sexualizing gaze of men, to be upset at a verse in the bible about respecting and loving each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^its a little ironic that someone who believes that its fine for good Muslim women to be instructed to have their faces hidden from the sexualizing gaze of men, to be upset at a verse in the bible about respecting and loving each other.
    If that's what you've gotten from what I've said you're even more brokebrained than I had previously thought. I cannot imagine going through life as ignorantly twisted as you showcase yourself to be in your posts.
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    ^ a true humanist wouldn't support the oppression of women, whether they be catholic or muslim, but a flavor of the month one will decide based on political correctness / concerns may be called racist if had consistent beliefs - its politically correct today in left circles to criticize the teaching of Catholicism, but its deemed racism if the religious activities being criticized are promoted by Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^ a true humanist wouldn't support the oppression of women, whether they be catholic or muslim, but a flavor of the month one will decide based on political correctness / concerns may be called racist if had consistent beliefs - its politically correct today in left circles to criticize the teaching of Catholicism, but its deemed racism if the religious activities being criticized are promoted by Islam.
    Hahaha.

    (It's no longer worth the effort to try and correct your misinterpretations & misunderstandings, so I'm just gonna laugh at posts like this where you purport to understand something you obviously don't.)
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    Servicing your husband without question? Are you for real? Where does that come from?
    Ephesians 5:21-25.
    Yes, I have read and heard Ephesians 5 many times. Usually it is read from verse 1-33. The homily that follows from the priest has never mentioned/taught that wives service their husbands at will. The message has always been about the love between husband and wife and the respect they must show each other. I have heard this from many different priests as I have attended many parishes. I cannot speak for other Christian denominations but Catholics do not interpret that as you are implying. In my opinion and lived experience.
    Why are you saying never and always? You are just citing your own experience in what you have witnessed in services. In any case why is the defense of the Misogyny contained in several verses in the bible always defended by something like, "Its contained in the bible but that's not what parishioners believe or how its ever talked about within the faith.

    Its that nature of obfuscation that is as offputting as the verses. In short, its denial.
    But I understand in advance that faith requires substantial denial.
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    Jesus. Start a thread to go discuss religion and the bible. No pun intended.

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    Servicing your husband without question? Are you for real? Where does that come from?
    Ephesians 5:21-25.
    Yes, I have read and heard Ephesians 5 many times. Usually it is read from verse 1-33. The homily that follows from the priest has never mentioned/taught that wives service their husbands at will. The message has always been about the love between husband and wife and the respect they must show each other. I have heard this from many different priests as I have attended many parishes. I cannot speak for other Christian denominations but Catholics do not interpret that as you are implying. In my opinion and lived experience.
    Why are you saying never and always? You are just citing your own experience in what you have witnessed in services. In any case why is the defense of the Misogyny contained in several verses in the bible always defended by something like, "Its contained in the bible but that's not what parishioners believe or how its ever talked about within the faith.

    Its that nature of obfuscation that is as offputting as the verses. In short, its denial.
    But I understand in advance that faith requires substantial denial.
    Faith is a personal experience. Maybe you have had a bad experience. I can only speak about what I have seen, heard and lived as a Catholic. I can’t comment on the experience of other Christian denominations as I have not lived it.

    It’s your right not to have faith. It’s your right not to practice Catholism. It is your right to be critical. Don’t read the bible if it bothers you. That is the beauty of living in Canada.

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    Servicing your husband without question? Are you for real? Where does that come from?
    Ephesians 5:21-25.
    Yes, I have read and heard Ephesians 5 many times. Usually it is read from verse 1-33. The homily that follows from the priest has never mentioned/taught that wives service their husbands at will. The message has always been about the love between husband and wife and the respect they must show each other. I have heard this from many different priests as I have attended many parishes. I cannot speak for other Christian denominations but Catholics do not interpret that as you are implying. In my opinion and lived experience.
    Why are you saying never and always? You are just citing your own experience in what you have witnessed in services. In any case why is the defense of the Misogyny contained in several verses in the bible always defended by something like, "Its contained in the bible but that's not what parishioners believe or how its ever talked about within the faith.

    Its that nature of obfuscation that is as offputting as the verses. In short, its denial.
    But I understand in advance that faith requires substantial denial.
    Faith is a personal experience. Maybe you have had a bad experience. I can only speak about what I have seen, heard and lived as a Catholic. I can’t comment on the experience of other Christian denominations as I have not lived it.

    It’s your right not to have faith. It’s your right not to practice Catholism. It is your right to be critical. Don’t read the bible if it bothers you. That is the beauty of living in Canada.
    Thanks for the reasonable responses. I'll let this one topic die as per Moodibs wish. Reminds me that the one way to have discord is to talk about Religion, Politics, Philosophy, etc. heh
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    So back on the thread topic NDP emailgate now gives the opposition, and UCP party, something reasonable to talk about and criticize. This time new and improved critique and not involving religion. NDP better find those email records stored somewhere. If not how possibly inept and naïve can this ruling party be. Rhetorical question. But if those emails are all gone this is just sheer incompetence on display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodib View Post
    Jesus. Start a thread to go discuss religion and the bible. No pun intended.
    Stick a sock in it. Blame it on Ric Mciver for the direction this went. its completely acceptable that it was going to lead to discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    So back on the thread topic NDP emailgate now gives the opposition, and UCP party, something reasonable to talk about and criticize. This time new and improved critique and not involving religion. NDP better find those email records stored somewhere. If not how possibly inept and naïve can this ruling party be. Rhetorical question. But if those emails are all gone this is just sheer incompetence on display.
    Do you think this is more or less ineptitude than the previous government inappropriately shredding over 300 boxes worth of files?
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    The failures of the past government do not condone the failures of the current government. I expected better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
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    So back on the thread topic NDP emailgate now gives the opposition, and UCP party, something reasonable to talk about and criticize. This time new and improved critique and not involving religion. NDP better find those email records stored somewhere. If not how possibly inept and naïve can this ruling party be. Rhetorical question. But if those emails are all gone this is just sheer incompetence on display.
    Do you think this is more or less ineptitude than the previous government inappropriately shredding over 300 boxes worth of files?
    More. The Journal article is pretty damning. I don't think there are close to 800k files in 300 boxes.

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    I'm willing to bet a lot of it relates to the energy contracts that broken on the basis of NDP changing the law / were settled, the true cost of which has been buried in provincial debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    i'm willing to bet a lot of it relates to the energy contracts that broken on the basis of ndp changing the law / were settled, the true cost of which has been buried in provincial debt.
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    e: hahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahah (for moahunter's crummy edit, it needed its own laugh).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    The failures of the past government do not condone the failures of the current government. I expected better.
    I agree. Listening to QP today, your post is very true!

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    Top_Dawg was wondering why the forum was so slow.

    Then it dawned on him that most C2Eers are down at the a Matrix this afternoon.

    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...mla-at-230-p-m

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    City councillor Mike Nickel plans to run for the United Conservative Party in the next provincial election.

    Nickel announced his intention Wednesday morning to seek the UCP nomination in the new riding of Edmonton-South.
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    I like Mike a lot - on City Council.

    I will not support him in his UCP bid whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    I like Mike a lot - on City Council.

    I will not support him in his UCP bid whatsoever.
    I'm curious as to why you think he's good for city politics, but not provincial.

    (Disclosure, I know very little about the guy, except that he's considered right-wing and was associated with that pro-business propaganda group a few years ago.)

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    Mike is a good individual who is not only fiscally more conservative than the pie-in-the-sky faction of Councillors who push a nonsensical agenda that appeals to the minority (I am surprised some them aren't out protesting against the Trans-Mountain expansion) but a practical politician who recognizes the importance of business to the community.

    That being said, I will not support the UCP nor its candidates under any circumstance due to my libertarian/liberal values that are in direct opposition to what they really represent despite all of the attempts to gloss over and cover up that agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man From YEG View Post
    Mike is a good individual who is not only fiscally more conservative than the pie-in-the-sky faction of Councillors who push a nonsensical agenda that appeals to the minority (I am surprised some them aren't out protesting against the Trans-Mountain expansion) but a practical politician who recognizes the importance of business to the community.

    That being said, I will not support the UCP nor its candidates under any circumstance due to my libertarian/liberal values that are in direct opposition to what they really represent despite all of the attempts to gloss over and cover up that agenda.
    Okay, so in the phrase "Mike Nickel, UCP MLA", it's the UCP aspect that you specifically dislike.

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    If Mike ran for the Alberta Party I would support him although it would be a shame to see him leave Council and open up the chance of another surrealist getting elected.

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    Alberta Party.






    Top_Dawg is no political hack.... but...isn't the objective to get elected ?

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    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/poli...6k-pac-payment



    Sounds like ol' big arse has another fire to put out.

    This could get ugly.

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    I really like Mike, this lefty council isn;t for him, bunch of pussies..you'll do well Mike

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    I bet Mayor Don is happy Mike is moving on. He's one of the few city councilors that really knows what's going on with Metro LRT signaling issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I bet Mayor Don is happy Mike is moving on. He's one of the few city councilors that really knows what's going on with Metro LRT signaling issues.
    Mike knows a lot more than just the LRT. I know he was ticked off about the wading pool at city hall,Rexall place, I think things just escalated..he would have made a good mayor imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I bet Mayor Don is happy Mike is moving on. He's one of the few city councilors that really knows what's going on with Metro LRT signaling issues.
    I must have missed where he explained it. Please feel free to share a link of a location for that.

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    I never said he explained it. That's you trying to put words in my mouth. Here is what Mike Nickle said on the topic of Metro:

    https://953freshradio.ca/news/390128...ng-big-reveal/

    Read Mike Nickel's statement under the 2nd image of the page 2nd sentence

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    I'll save you the time of going to find it, Dave...

    “And it’s not even designed for the crossing systems that we put in place,” a frustrated Councillor Mike Nickel told Global News.
    Yup, Mike certainly has it all figured out.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Reading the whole article I get the feeling the blame might lie with Thales for not paying attention to the specs the city put out,so I would not be so quick to blam the administration as Nickel did, but it is a debatable point.

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    Mandel should take the hit for this one. Thales was the last bid. They said they could make the CBTC system work. Both parties are to be blamed here. Our current administrations should just rip out the CBTC system cut its losses and go back to what was in place before. Go back to what worked because this doesn't. Right now I think the COE is just buying time to figure out a damage control strategy. Stop the bleeding before it gets out of control more then it already is. But this tangent has already gone off the rails beyond the scope of the topic of this thread.
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