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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    It's hilarious when people proclaim that numbers dug up from liberal blogs or corporate news reflect reality. My favorite number was that Hillary Clinton had a 98% chance of winning the election. As we saw, it was nothing close to reality.
    She had 3 million more votes. But they don't count.
    There is no point rehashing but she had more votes... Either side can say that depending on who wins. The US is not a true democracy, it's a republic.https://www.thoughtco.com/republic-vs-democracy-4169936 In a republic, laws are made by representatives chosen the people and must comply with a constitution which specifically protects the rights of the minority from the will of the majority

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The leftist mob's greatest talent is taking literally any word - said at any time, and said in any context - and making it sound like it was said very racist-ly.

    It really hilarious.
    You mean like Bidens one word slip which he immediately corrected and you wants all nuts over but give Trump a pass on everything he says?
    I just wish the press was totally impartial and totally honest (which they are not).

    That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    I absolutely love your constant & consistent, downright Orwellian use of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy as applied to news organizations, especially now that even Fox News can't muster up the Harlem Globetrotter levels of spin required to make Trump not look like a demented sociopath.
    Fox News is Bush-Republican supporting neocon garbage. Always was. And they've never supported Trump, either (he's not a Bush or a McCain). Don't know why everyone who hates me here thinks I follow it. I've never shown support for it here. (my guess is that it's just another straw man so the resident far left mob doesn't have to actually come up with any clever arguments)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The leftist mob's greatest talent is taking literally any word - said at any time, and said in any context - and making it sound like it was said very racist-ly.

    It really hilarious.
    You mean like Bidens one word slip which he immediately corrected and you wants all nuts over but give Trump a pass on everything he says?
    I just wish the press was totally impartial and totally honest (which they are not).

    That's all.
    How about you take the first step???
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    I am not a journalist working for a major news media corporation.

    Like everyone else here, I am a mere citizen trying to make sense of today's massive information gap caused by the massive ocean of careless and dishonest clickbait media and their constant "outrage porn" that they peddle to us instead of responsibly reporting objective facts.

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    You are the most disingenuous person I know.

    Your last post just proves it. Playing the victom card when you know exactly that you flame bait and are the chief Trump apologist.
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    You think I am a journalist? You think this discussion board is a newspaper or something?

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    I will just repost noodle's eloquent
    and accurate post about you.

    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    No, you're a racist bigot because you say racist, bigoted things backed by your racist, bigoted beliefs, emboldened by the racist bigot in the White House.

    You were a racist bigot before he was elected & you'll be a racist bigot afterwards.

    Got that, you fascist-defending, sexual-predator-admiring, lie-swallowing, hate-spewing, fake-news-regurgitating, alt-right racist bigot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
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    NYT opinion, by Thomas Friedman
    ‘Trump’s Going to Get Re-elected, Isn’t He?’
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/o...rump-2020.html

    ...
    So, I wasn’t surprised to hear so many people expressing fear that the racist, divisive, climate-change-denying, woman-abusing jerk who is our president was going to get re-elected, and was even seeing his poll numbers rise.

    Dear Democrats: This is not complicated! Just nominate a decent, sane person, one committed to reunifying the country and creating more good jobs, a person who can gain the support of the independents, moderate Republicans and suburban women who abandoned Donald Trump in the midterms and thus swung the House of Representatives to the Democrats and could do the same for the presidency. And that candidate can win!
    ....

    I think Friedman is reading the signs correctly, but his prescription of what to do misses the mark. As he points out, it seems Democrats are failing to deliver an effective response to the forces that has delivered Trump. Friedman suggests all Democrats need to do is go back to the political-center of pre-Trump era and things will be back to normal. Unfortunately, in my opinion, many of those pro-growth policies contributed to the societal divide that unleashed the anti-establishment sentiment in many western democracies.

    The delusion of winning the next election by moving to political centre


    Pelosi Proves Triangulation Is Really Self-Strangulation

    By: Jeet Heer

    https://www.thenation.com/article/pe...quad-moderate/


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    Pelosi often acts as if Trump were merely annoying (and perhaps a useful foil), while the Squad are the true enemies. Unless she ends her feud with the congressional left, Democrats will be marching into battle with a commander who is only halfheartedly challenging the most dangerous president in modern American history.
    Apologies for self quoting...and not sure if there is any point posting opinions in this thread, instead on name calling etc....but anyhow, on the election ahead in US:

    interesting look at “validated” voter data from 2016 here: https://www.people-press.org/2018/08...idated-voters/

    The way I read this, it seems to me that white, non-evangelical women will be the key swing vote for 2020. They supported Trump in 2016 and democrats need to persuade that block for 2020. Most other demographic group of voters appear to be already decided.

    And here is the challenge for democrats: their base voter is shifting significantly to left. If democrats nominate a centrist, like Joe Biden, they will alienate a sizeable portion of their base, discourage the turnout and the electoral college math says Trump gets re-elected. If they choose a left-wing candidate, Bernie Sanders or Warren, who propose things like student debt relief or Medicare for all etc, they won’t be able to convince the swing voter (the most important of which I think is white, non-evangelical women) to support them and thus same coalition that elected Trump in 2016 will re-elect him in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    I will just repost noodle's eloquent
    and accurate post about you.

    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    No, you're a racist bigot because you say racist, bigoted things backed by your racist, bigoted beliefs, emboldened by the racist bigot in the White House.

    You were a racist bigot before he was elected & you'll be a racist bigot afterwards.

    Got that, you fascist-defending, sexual-predator-admiring, lie-swallowing, hate-spewing, fake-news-regurgitating, alt-right racist bigot?
    Aw, thanks!
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    You don't like paying for the joint exercises? Well the commander in chief could call them off. That's you, btw.

    Trump sides with Kim criticism of US-South Korea war games

    "US President Donald Trump told reporters Friday he agreed with Kim Jong Un’s opposition to US-South Korea war games, after receiving what he was a new letter from the North Korean leader.


    “I got a very beautiful letter from Kim Jong Un yesterday,” Trump said. “It was a very positive letter.”


    “He wasn’t happy with the war games,” Trump added, referring to new military exercises between US forces and the South Korean military that began this week.


    “As you know, I’ve never liked it either. I’ve never been a fan. And you know why? I don’t like paying for it,” the US leader said.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/tru...rea-war-games/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    And here is the challenge for democrats: their base voter is shifting significantly to left. If democrats nominate a centrist, like Joe Biden, they will alienate a sizeable portion of their base, discourage the turnout and the electoral college math says Trump gets re-elected. If they choose a left-wing candidate, Bernie Sanders or Warren, who propose things like student debt relief or Medicare for all etc, they won’t be able to convince the swing voter (the most important of which I think is white, non-evangelical women) to support them and thus same coalition that elected Trump in 2016 will re-elect him in 2020.
    Good analysis.

    I think the Democrat party is too fragmented right now - they have a lot of pretty popular high-profile (and far-left) members who don't want another "old white man" like Biden to run for president, but those same high-profile members are bit too far left for the more moderate Democrat voters who would only vote for someone like Biden.

    But the Republicans, by and large, are Trump's party now. There's nobody in the GOP who is in a position to take that from him.

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    Or was he suicided? Dead men tell no tales

    Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials

    “His death came less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan, with marks on his neck that appeared to be self-inflicted, sources told ABC News.

    He had been on suicide watch since the July 23 incident.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-ep...ry?id=64881684
    Last edited by KC; 10-08-2019 at 07:27 AM.

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    Watch the at-right conspiracy theorists claim that he was killed by Clinton's people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Watch the at-right conspiracy theorists claim that he was killed by Clinton's people...
    Here - complements of Fox News of course.

    Except it was a victim making the claim:

    Jeffrey Epstein's alleged sex trafficking victim named Bill Richardson, George Mitchell in newly released documents | Fox News

    “A woman who has long claimed disgraced money man Jeffrey Epstein forced her to have sex with powerful men named two prominent Democratic politicians - former Sen. George Mitchell and ex-New Mexico governor and Clinton cabinet official Bill Richardson - in documents unsealed Friday by federal prosecutors in New York.”

    “Giuffre claimed in a May 2016 deposition to have been trafficked to have sex with and provide erotic massages to powerful politicians, foreign leaders and well-heeled businessmen. ”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mit...ardson-accused

    Fears paedo celeb Jeffrey Epstein may be a SPY as sources claim soft plea deals and cushy police treatment were because he ‘belonged to intelligence’ – The Sun

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/948792...spy-plea-deal/





    Bolding mine
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    Seems that old white guys may not be as bright as poor kids


    ‘Poor Kids’ Just as Bright as ‘White Kids,’ Biden Says - Video - NYTimes.com

    https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/pol...hite-kids.html

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    Yeah, we heard his gaffe which he immediately corrected. Even as it stands, he is making a social comment on the privileged white upper class having more opportunities for quality education than poor people.

    It is not racist as he speaks from his position in the rich, white upperclass and wants to change the class structure and institutionalized racism inherent in the system to make it more fair.

    Do you have a problem with that position?

    I don't.

    It is at the opposite side of the spectrum compared to Trump's deliberate attacks on poor people of color, removing funding from their medical and social programs and his demonization of their plight while giving tax breaks to the uber rich and huge corporations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Or was he suicided? Dead men tell no tales

    Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials

    “His death came less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan, with marks on his neck that appeared to be self-inflicted, sources told ABC News.

    He had been on suicide watch since the July 23 incident.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-ep...ry?id=64881684
    He was already beaten up., bet he couldn't face time in prison No loss imho
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Here's what the Republican Chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, said today:

    Thanks to the unhinged mob on the left, @realDonaldTrump raised $12M today, $2M more than originally expected.

    The support for our President is unprecedented and growing!
    https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/st...16660813369345

    Way to inspire Trump's supporters, lefties.
    Oligarchs gonna oligarch. Given that the funds are from 6-figure a plate dinners in the Hamptons, I don't really think they're a reaction to the shootings on the weekend. Correlation does not imply causation.

    President Trump raised $12 million at two Hamptons fundraisers Friday, adding to the massive campaign warchest he’s amassing for his 2020 re-election campaign.
    The cost to attend the fundraiser at Ross’s home ran as high as $250,000, which got a donor a private roundtable discussion with Trump in addition to a lunch and a photo.
    Party of bigots & racists squeezes oligarchs for money in exchange for access. Textbook fascist authoritarian behaviour. But to someone with an Overton window so skewed the golden rule sounds like hippy commie BS it's a great thing, especially because you can attempt to get one over on the libs, which is what really matters to a fascist.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e39_story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The leftist mob's greatest talent is taking literally any word - said at any time, and said in any context - and making it sound like it was said very racist-ly.

    It really hilarious.
    You mean like Bidens one word slip which he immediately corrected and you wants all nuts over but give Trump a pass on everything he says?
    I just wish the press was totally impartial and totally honest (which they are not).

    That's all.
    If the press was to remain objective, the only thing that would be in the news is how terrible of a president Trump is, and how he's using the presidency for his own gain. If anything the media is guilty of downplaying what Trump has done in an attempt to appear more impartial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Or was he suicided? Dead men tell no tales

    Jeffrey Epstein, accused sex trafficker, dies by suicide: Officials

    “His death came less than three weeks after he was found unresponsive in his cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan, with marks on his neck that appeared to be self-inflicted, sources told ABC News.

    He had been on suicide watch since the July 23 incident.”

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-ep...ry?id=64881684

    A global sex trafficker who could implicate some of the richest and most powerful people on Earth as pedophiles, died in his jail cell while under suicide watch in federal prison on the night that his case files were unsealed.

    Crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    If anything the media is guilty of downplaying what Trump has done in an attempt to appear more impartial.
    The fact that the media focuses more on reading between the lines to find something "mean" he said, rather than focusing on accomplishments like how he has made progress towards peace talks in the Korean peninsula, or how the ISIS caliphate has basically been obliterated since he has been President is all the proof I need that most of the big media has an agenda against him.

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    Yes, it was a stupid thing to say. However, unlike Trump, he immediately corrected himself. The Donald, when confronted in similar situations simply doubles down or denies he said that he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    If anything the media is guilty of downplaying what Trump has done in an attempt to appear more impartial.
    The fact that the media focuses more on reading between the lines to find something "mean" he said, rather than focusing on accomplishments like how he has made progress towards peace talks in the Korean peninsula, or how the ISIS caliphate has basically been obliterated since he has been President is all the proof I need that most of the big media has an agenda against him.

    What progress in North Korea? Please be specific. All that has been accomplished is that Trump has received nice greeting cards from Kim. He is still testing missiles and telling Trump what to do, stop military exercises while Kim keeps doing his. Trump wags his tail and hopes for table scraps.

    Trump: Kim says ready to restart talks when U.S.-South Korea joint drills end.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...KCN1UZ2EK?il=0
    North Korea fired what appeared to be two short-range missiles on Saturday, South Korea said, in a “show of force” against the exercises.

    More missile launches are highly probable, as the North Korean military is conducting its own summer drills, South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) said in a statement.
    Trump claims he defeated ISIS yet the facts are that Trump had very little to do with the events that were in play long before he became President

    ISIS was being defeated by a multinational force.



    The Russia–Syria–Iran–Iraq coalition (RSII coalition), also referred to as 4+1 (in which the "plus one" refers to Hezbollah of Lebanon)

    292 battles involving ISIL
    246 before Trump even took office
    123 involved the United States
    118 of those happened while Obama was President

    only 5 involved the US under Trump
    Canadian forces were involved in 24 battles
    Hezbollah fought 11 battles against ISIL

    Therefore Hezbollah fought in twice as many battle against ISIL than the United States did under President Trump

    But Trump claims that he defeated ISIS


    Souce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...involving_ISIL







    According to Trump's own Inspector General, the Pentagon and US military commanders, ISIS has not been defeated

    ISIS is not defeated. Neither Trump nor Democrats should pretend it is.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...e39_story.html August 9
    Now consider the conclusions of the recently released inspector general’s report to Congress on Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S. military campaign against the Islamic State. The lead inspector general, Glenn A. Fine of the Defense Department, reports that although the group lost territory, from April through June it was “resurging in Syria,” and “solidified its insurgent capabilities in Iraq.” The report draws on information from U.S. military commanders who say the Islamic State is coming back in part because “the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) and U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) remain unable to sustain long-term operations against ISIS militants.”

    The report says the Islamic State has moved underground; retains 14,000 to 18,000 members; “is likely reestablishing financial networks” in both Iraq and Syria; “maintains an extensive worldwide social media effort to recruit fighters”; and has carried out asymmetric attacks using a “more stable” network for command-and-control and logistics. The report quotes military leaders as saying that the United States has been drawing down just when allies needed more help with training, equipment and developing better intelligence. The drawdown hurt the United States’ ability to secure and monitor the sprawling al-Hol displacement camp in northeastern Syria, where thousands of Islamic State families reside, military leaders told the inspector general. The camp is a major source of recruits for the group, which, U.S. commanders said, is taking advantage of the drawdown to recruit new members.
    Trump’s Syria withdrawal has hurt fight against Isis, Pentagon says
    Report says Isis rebuilding in Syria and Iraq
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9045136.html
    Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw troops from Syria has left US allies ill-equipped to deal with a resurgent Isis, according to a new Pentagon report.

    Isis has been steadily rebuilding its capabilities since the defeat of its caliphate in March this year. In the time since, it has established “resurgent cells” in the country and carried out assassinations, suicide attacks, abductions and arson of crops, the report said.


    But the withdrawal of some 2,000 US soldiers has “decreased the support available for Syrian partner forces at a time when their forces need more training and equipping to respond to the Isis resurgence”.


    The drawdown has left the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces, Washington’s partner on the ground in the fight against Isis, with “limited capacity to hold liberated areas”.
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    Wow - the ISIS caliphate was defeated in March of this year and all that's left are some "resurgent cells"? I didn't know that much progress was made against them.

    Thanks for posting that article , Edmonton PRT!

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    Again, you are a joke.

    Trump had very little to do with defeating ISIS but that goes right over your head.

    I'll repeat what you missed

    292 battles involving ISIL
    246 before Trump even took office
    123 involved the United States
    118 of those happened while Obama was President

    only 5 involved the US under Trump
    Canadian forces were involved in 24 battles
    Hezbollah fought 11 battles against ISIL

    Therefore Hezbollah fought in twice as many battle against ISIL than the United States did under President Trump

    But Trump claims that he defeated ISIS
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow - the ISIS caliphate was defeated in March of this year and all that's left are some "resurgent cells"? I didn't know that much progress was made against them.

    Thanks for posting that article , Edmonton PRT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    [IMG]https://media1.tenor.com/images/9a0b8702d84b8460face61eb38683c42/tenor.gif?itemid=7524571[/IMG
    Hahaha. First time ever that I’ve laughed at the face palming. Totally reflected my own feeling at the moment as I skimmed the comments. (No real need for the stupid meme though)
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    “It’s time to find a place for dad.” - hilarious! Find a two for one deal for both Biden and Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Watch the at-right conspiracy theorists claim that he was killed by Clinton's people...
    Trump Official Promotes Clinton Conspiracy Theory About Epstein Death – Rolling Stone

    “Later in the day, President Donald Trump retweeted two tweets pushing the same theory.”

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-death-870106/
    Last edited by KC; 10-08-2019 at 05:51 PM.

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    Say what you will about Kim. He may be a vicious, amoral, sadistic dictator but he's a virtuosi at playing Trump.

    Trump says Kim wants to meet again and gave 'small apology' for missile tests
    Donald Trump said Saturday that North Korea’s Kim Jong-un wants to meet once again to “start negotiations” after joint US-South Korea military exercises end.


    The president also said Kim apologized for the flurry of recent short-range missile tests that has rattled US allies in the region.


    Trump was tweeting more details from the “beautiful” three-page letter he told reporters on Friday that he had received from Kim. Trump, who is on vacation at his golf club in New Jersey, said Kim spent much of his letter complaining about “the ridiculous and expensive exercises”, which North Korea sees as a threat.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-tests-letter
    And shortly thereafter.

    North Korea fires two projectiles shortly after Trump dismissed earlier launches

    Projectiles fired at dawn on Saturday from area around north-eastern city of Hamhung, South Korea’s military says

    The latest launch comes shortly after the US president, Donald Trump, said he had received a “very beautiful letter” from North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rlier-launches
    Time for another "beautiful letter. Maybe some chocolates and flowers, followed by a light supper and some dancing.

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    Cut to the chase Kim and grab Trump by the pussy!

    When you are a ruthless dicktator, Trump will let you do anything.
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    Interesting article about how it's likely all the evidence in the Epstein case will be presented now:

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/eps...rts-heres-why/

    Short version is that only Epstein had legal standing to ask for some of the evidence to be dismissed, and now he's dead. There should be some power people losing sleep over this.
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    Yes, we KNOW who did this!

    Remember when the President of the United States wasn't a conspiracy theorist?

    Trump spreading conspiracy theory suggesting Bill Clinton murdered Jeffrey Epstein

    From his golf vacation at his Bedminster Club, Trump retweeted Terrence K. Williams, who asked people to retweet his message if they agreed and were not surprised by his contention that Clinton had Epstein killed.


    “#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead,” Williams said. “I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this! [Retweet] if you’re not surprised.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/tru...ffrey-epstein/
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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    Omg, he met the children? That time traveller. lol
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    Jeffrey Epstein: Questions raised over disgraced financier's death - BBC News
    The FBI has opened a formal investigation into how US financier Jeffrey Epstein was able to apparently kill himself in prison

    “New York Mayor Bill de Blasio said it "way too convenient" that Epstein could no longer incriminate others.
    "What a lot of us want to know is, what did he know?" Mr de Blasio, who is also running for the Democratic presidential nomination, told reporters in Iowa.
    "How many other millionaires and billionaires were part of the illegal activities that he was engaged in?”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49309317
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post

    Omg, he met the children? That time traveller. lol
    Time travel? More like another dementia.

    Maybe now they’ve got two leaders with major mental problems. (Gotta wonder if Trump’s bizarre state is due to a severe lack of a memory too.)

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    Trump accuses Clinton of murder.

    Trump supporters totally quiet.

    Biden makes a slip of the tongue.

    OMG! What a scandal!

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    Yup, Biden can't compare to Trump's 12 lies per day.

    Remember the good old days where Trump claimed that the 1775 revolutionary army 'took over airports'

    Or making false claims about the World Trade Center attacks

    Trump claimed at a campaign rally in 2015 that he watched from his apartment in Trump Tower as people jumped from the burning WTC buildings to their deaths, but multiple news organizations pointed out that would have been an impossibility because Trump Tower is four miles away from Ground Zero:

    I have a window in my apartment that specifically was aimed at the World Trade Center, because of the beauty of the whole downtown Manhattan. And I watched as people jumped, and I watched the second plane come in
    Trump also famously but falsely claimed repeatedly that he witnessed Muslim Americans in New Jersey celebrating as the WTC buildings came down:

    Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.
    He also said that he sent over 100 to 125 employees to help with cleanup efforts when
    Mr. O’Brien, the author, said the size of the Trump Organization at the time was “a little bit over a dozen people,” which would have made it impossible to send hundreds of people to participate in the relief effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Trump Official Promotes Clinton Conspiracy Theory About Epstein Death – Rolling Stone

    “Later in the day, President Donald Trump retweeted two tweets pushing the same theory.”

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-death-870106/

    Maybe they know something that the author of the Rolling Stone article doesn't?

    We cannot rule that out.

    Taking everything that the media says at face value is how the Iraq war started, and how racial tensions ramped up during the Obama years when the press pushed the Ferguson shooting hoax (recall how the media reporting of that incident was proven completely false in court).

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    The Iraq war was a Bush Republican lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Again, you are a joke.

    Trump had very little to do with defeating ISIS but that goes right over your head.

    I'll repeat what you missed

    292 battles involving ISIL
    246 before Trump even took office
    123 involved the United States
    118 of those happened while Obama was President

    only 5 involved the US under Trump
    Canadian forces were involved in 24 battles
    Hezbollah fought 11 battles against ISIL

    Therefore Hezbollah fought in twice as many battle against ISIL than the United States did under President Trump

    But Trump claims that he defeated ISIS

    Don't kid yourself - if ISIS was defeated during the Obama years, there would be nonstop praise from the press.

    But because Trump is president when it happened, the media ignored ISIS's defeat, and instead pushed nonstop conspiracy theories that Trump was involved in a complex web of Russians controlling the election and White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    The Iraq war was a Bush Republican lie.
    It sure was. And the mainstream press was entirely complicit in pushing it forward.

    Just like how the mainstream press is complicit in pushing the "Russian collusion" Clinton Democrat lie. (And more recently again pushing the "Trump called white supremacists 'fine people' lie)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post

    Omg, he met the children? That time traveller. lol
    Time travel? More like another dementia.

    Maybe now they’ve got two leaders with major mental problems. (Gotta wonder if Trump’s bizarre state is due to a severe lack of a memory too.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    The Iraq war was a Bush Republican lie.
    It sure was. And the mainstream press was entirely complicit in pushing it forward.

    Just like how the mainstream press is complicit in pushing the "Russian collusion" Clinton Democrat lie. (And more recently again pushing the "Trump called white supremacists 'fine people' lie)
    So you have been saying that the mainstream media has a left wing bias but then today you say that they pushed the right wing Bush agenda to go to war.

    Is doublespeak a hobby for you or do you not see the hypocrisy of your conflicting statements?

    As far as I recall, the media has questioned the Iraq war from even before it began, they criticized that the 9/11 terrorists mostly came from Saudi Arabia and much of the funding as well. They also investigated and found out the Sadam Hussein had jailed many terrorists.

    Your rewritting of history to parrot Trump's propaganda of fake news and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories from Breitbart and Infowars is just systemic of your wholesale misinformation and deflection of the terrible Trump presidency.

    Fact matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Again, you are a joke.

    Trump had very little to do with defeating ISIS but that goes right over your head.

    I'll repeat what you missed

    292 battles involving ISIL
    246 before Trump even took office
    123 involved the United States
    118 of those happened while Obama was President

    only 5 involved the US under Trump
    Canadian forces were involved in 24 battles
    Hezbollah fought 11 battles against ISIL

    Therefore Hezbollah fought in twice as many battle against ISIL than the United States did under President Trump

    But Trump claims that he defeated ISIS

    Don't kid yourself - if ISIS was defeated during the Obama years, there would be nonstop praise from the press.

    But because Trump is president when it happened, the media ignored ISIS's defeat, and instead pushed nonstop conspiracy theories that Trump was involved in a complex web of Russians controlling the election and White House.

    Typical of Trump (Mr. Fake Bone Spurs) to take credit for the work of others and the countless lives lost, denigrating Gold Star families, then taking a victory lap and extolling praise upon himself after so many lives were lost and claiming he defeated ISIS.

    He cared nothing about ISIS other than making political points and throwing himself a huge military parade for himself styled after France, North Korea or the former Soviet Union and was disgruntled when it was too costly and even his own Generals resisted the idea.

    He did the same last week by making a video of himself getting praise but not even referring to the tragic events that happened in Dayton (he also said Toledo) and El Paso, and making the whole issue about him and not the victims. He used an orphaned baby as a prop and he irresponsibly targeted his parents by his multiple false claims about El Paso that motivated the terrorist to murder them. He will do nothing on gun control, closing the loopholes nor his unfounded claims about mental health.

    The do nothing puppet of the NRA
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    'I refuse to contribute to anyone's hateful bulls**t': Alabama restaurant will shut for one day so it doesn't have to serve fans of Fox and Friends host Brian Kilmeade who is performing next door

    https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampp...-Kilmeade.html
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    Where will MrNazi and H.L. go for dinner?

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    ‘Nepotism Barbie’ Ivanka Trump slammed for wishing Muslims a happy Eid al-Adha: ‘Your duplicity is despicable’
    https://www.alternet.org/2019/08/nep...is-despicable/
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    Interesting video however this conspiracy guy says no camera footage exists yet the next article says it should exist. (Also, I see that the conspiracy guy asks for donations.)

    Dead Men Tell No Tales - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VpaUGdy7U



    Epstein autopsy completed but more information needed, medical examiner says

    “Epstein's suicide was likely recorded by jail cameras, according to Preet Bharara, the former federal prosecutor in Manhattan.
    "One hopes it is complete, conclusive, and secured," he tweeted, referencing video he said should exist.”

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jeffre...tion-1.5243121
    Last edited by KC; 11-08-2019 at 06:11 PM.

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    Trump had his Russian operatives steal the tape.

    Now in Putin's archive as the Epstein Dispatch Tape, Richter next to the Trump Pee Pee tape.
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    There's no video of Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide: sources - New York Post

    https://nypost.com/2019/08/11/theres...icide-sources/


    Jeffrey Epstein Camera Malfunction: No Proof for Rumor, But Other Questions Remain – Heavy.com
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffr...a-malfunction/

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    There's no video of Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide: sources - NY Post

    https://nypost.com/2019/08/11/theres...icide-sources/


    Jeffrey Epstein Camera Malfunction: No Proof for Rumor, But Other Questions Remain – Heavy.com
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffr...a-malfunction/

    Jeffrey Epstein: A medical examiner has been performed an autospy on Epstein's body. - CNN

    “Epstein's cell was not regularly monitored the night he is believed to have killed himself, a source with knowledge of Epstein's time at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York told CNN.”...
    He initially had a cellmate, but that person was removed for reasons unknown, the source said.

    It's protocol for inmates coming off suicide watch not to be placed alone in a cell, according to the source.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/11/us/je...day/index.html


    Jeffrey Epstein: How conspiracy theories spread after financier's death - BBC News

    “This wild speculation was not confined to a fringe minority - far from it. Politicians and high-profile journalists also stoked rampant speculation at a time when little information was publicly available. MSNBC host Joe Scarborough tweeted:...”

    “"The immediate rush to spread conspiracy theories about someone on the 'other side' of [the] partisan divide illustrates why our society is so vulnerable to foreign disinformation," tweeted Republican Senator Marco Rubio.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49312746

    Pimp for the famous?

    Jeffrey Epstein's paper trail: A look at the convicted pedophile's high-powered connections | Fox Business

    “Donald Trump: President Trump is Epstein’s former friend, once flying on the financier’s private jet, and neighbor in Mar-A-Lago. Trump’s relationship with Epstein began in the late 1980s, and the duo reportedly partied together in the late 1990s, according to multiple media reports.

    “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. ...”

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/business...ed-connections
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    Trump suddenly announces that the events last week in Dayton and El Paso was a "catastrophe."

    When asked by reporters if he firmly believes that the shootings are a "catastrophe.", he said "NO, NO, not the shootings but my press coverage was a catastrophe" he responded, "My poll numbers are down even after that fantastic video we produced last week where everyone is praising me and taking my picture." "With all the attention I deserved, i can't understand why more people don't love me, fact is everyone must love me become I am so awesome"

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    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.

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    Can't happen. Must be Clinton and Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
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    Maybe if he stopped tweeting on his phone, watching TV for hours a day or playing golf so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
    I know it’s ludicrous but that’s how it works. (Same for monthly jobs numbers, loads of other economic issues, numbers of terrorist incidents... you name it) Look at the nonsensical things Obama got blamed for just because he was president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Can't happen. Must be Clinton and Obama.
    Yeah Bill Clinton, the guy that hasn’t been in power for nearly two decades. Hillary Clinton? She lost and no one is looking towards her for anything. Her power and influence is gone, gone, gone.




    The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People - The New York Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/b...interview.html

    “They’re Nothing, These Girls”: Unraveling the Mystery of Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s Enabler | Vanity Fair


    “Those who know her say that it’s possible she is as much of a Houdini as Epstein. Both of them liked having secrets, and the way those secrets kept people off balance. “Jeffrey always wanted to give the impression that he was an international man of mystery—‘I control everyone and everything, I collect people, I own people, I can damage people,’” says an ex-girlfriend. ...”

    “Maxwell also said the island had been completely wired for video; the friend thought that she and Epstein were videotaping everyone on the island as an insurance policy, as blackmail. ...”


    “ “Trump called Jeffrey trying to get it again, saying ‘She gave it to me! You know she gave it to me! You can give it to me now!’ but Jeffrey wouldn’t do it.” She laughs. “Donald was such a joke to all of the models back then—we all knew he was bankrupt and had no game. I remember Jeffrey once saying he was going to be late to pick me up because he had to drop off food for Donald—he was at home crying under the covers.” ”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...pstein-enabler
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    Epstein case is one of the unusual cases where Occam’s razor suggests the supposed conspiracy theory as more likely than other alternatives. It is a series of low-probability events all happening at the same time. It might be mere incompetence of jail staff but as it stands a higher likelihood of something dirty. Of course we should wait for more details, but nothing wrong with being suspicious of the narrative of the events.

    It’s interesting to see how people work extra hard to convince themselves it is not logical to think some dirty hands are at work. Oh conspiracy. Yes, sure, Who know who did this, but it sure was helpful to a lot of powerful people.

    And as for Clintons, I think, they likely have nothing to do with this. But also it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Clintons are well connected, long time political clan with deep connections throughout US and globally. Politicians unfortunately deal with sometimes dirty, behind the scene work. It won’t be surprising at all if they have some involvement here. But then again who knows. If you are curious to read about the list of suspicious deaths related to people dealing with Clintons, here is a 2016 piece from CBS Las Vegas: https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
    I know it’s ludicrous but that’s how it works. (Same for monthly jobs numbers, loads of other economic issues, numbers of terrorist incidents... you name it) Look at the nonsensical things Obama got blamed for just because he was president.

    The sign on the desk of a real President says it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Epstein case is one of the unusual cases where Occam’s razor suggests the supposed conspiracy theory as more likely than other alternatives. It is a series of low-probability events all happening at the same time. It might be mere incompetence of jail staff but as it stands a higher likelihood of something dirty. Of course we should wait for more details, but nothing wrong with being suspicious of the narrative of the events.

    It’s interesting to see how people work extra hard to convince themselves it is not logical to think some dirty hands are at work. Oh conspiracy. Yes, sure, Who know who did this, but it sure was helpful to a lot of powerful people.

    And as for Clintons, I think, they likely have nothing to do with this. But also it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Clintons are well connected, long time political clan with deep connections throughout US and globally. Politicians unfortunately deal with sometimes dirty, behind the scene work. It won’t be surprising at all if they have some involvement here. But then again who knows. If you are curious to read about the list of suspicious deaths related to people dealing with Clintons, here is a 2016 piece from CBS Las Vegas: https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/
    Hmm. I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself. There’s endless examples of protocol and procedures looking good on paper but never actually being followed.

    Nonetheless it’s fun to entertain conspiracy theories as once in a rare while they will be correct. It’s also fun to be watchful of the tactics being used by conspiracy theory pushers. Verbal, language, twisted logic, fear, psychological, omission, inclusion if the irrelevant... Those pushing any conspiracy theory always employ many, many subtle but underhanded tactics to boost the perceived credibility of their pet theory.


    Only getting around to raiding the island now? The Russians probably beat them to all the tapes ages ago.
    FBI raids Jeffrey Epstein's private Caribbean island | Jeffrey Epstein | The Guardian
    “This has been something on our radar for years. We’re all really curious why it’s happening now.” ...”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ribbean-island
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    I bet all those prison guards working overtime on the graveyard shift just were caught napping.

    As if guards don't fall asleep on the job. It is even mentioned in the Bible several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
    I know it’s ludicrous but that’s how it works. (Same for monthly jobs numbers, loads of other economic issues, numbers of terrorist incidents... you name it) Look at the nonsensical things Obama got blamed for just because he was president.
    I don't recall Obama getting blamed for much. I liked him his first term, second,not so much. He played golf a lot AND had his basketball court inside, where he apparently spent a lot of time.
    At least he wasn't slick willy Clinton, who spent his time in the oval office with Monica, and?
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    More whataboutism from the biased brigade.

    Fun Stats

    Days Trump has spent at Mar a Lago:
    91
    Cost of flights to Mar a Lago (24 so far):*
    ~$47,288,000
    Days Trump has spent at Bedminster:
    69
    Cost of flights to Bedminster (23 so far):*
    ~$17,861,500
    Trump has visited his clubs once every this many days since his inauguration:
    4.6
    Projected visits to golf clubs in four years:
    317
    Projected visits in eight years:
    634
    Total times Obama played golf during his eight year Presidency:
    306


    https://trumpgolfcount.com/
    Last edited by noodle; 13-08-2019 at 08:15 AM.
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    Yeah, the Donald loudly boasted as President, he would be too busy for golf or vacations

    I love working. I’m not a vacation guy. Right? Like Obama, he plays golf in Hawaii. He flies in a 747.Hardball with Chris Matthews, August 4, 2017 April 21, 2016 rally


    If you love what you do, you’re happy. You don’t take vacations.
    Hardball with Chris Matthews, August 4, 2017 April 22, 2016 rally

    I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to go play golf.
    Trump used to have a slightly different opinion of presidents playing golf by Phillip Bump, Washington Post, August 8 Virginia rally (August 20, 2016)

    I’m going to fight for every American in every last part of this nation. We have a president who doesn’t fight. He goes out and plays golf all the time.
    Hardball with Chris Matthews, August 4, 2017 October 23 rally

    I promise you, I will not be taking very long vacations, if I take them at all. There’s no time for vacations. We’re not going to be big on vacations.
    Hardball with Chris Matthews, August 4, 2017 March 14, 2016 rally



    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
    On the National debt,

    We're a debtor nation. We owe $19 trillion. We're not going to give you any money, and you want to be nice. You don't want to put it in their face. Just say, look, we're a poor nation. We've been mismanaged, we've been misrun. We don't know what the hell we're doing, right?

    We have to start chopping that debt down. ... I wouldn’t renegotiate the debt.

    Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Donald_Trump and https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ebt-in-8-years
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    I don't recall Obama getting blamed for much.
    Right...

    Ohio GOP lawmaker blames mass shootings on Obama, 'fatherlessness' and 'drag queen advocates'
    August 6, 2019 https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/polit...ngs/index.html
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    It's not like there was enough blaming of Obama that a sarcastic meme developed lampooning the Republicans tendency to foist responsibility for anything & everything onto him personally.

    Oh.

    Wait.

    #thanksobama
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Epstein case is one of the unusual cases where Occam’s razor suggests the supposed conspiracy theory as more likely than other alternatives. It is a series of low-probability events all happening at the same time. It might be mere incompetence of jail staff but as it stands a higher likelihood of something dirty. Of course we should wait for more details, but nothing wrong with being suspicious of the narrative of the events.

    It’s interesting to see how people work extra hard to convince themselves it is not logical to think some dirty hands are at work. Oh conspiracy. Yes, sure, Who know who did this, but it sure was helpful to a lot of powerful people.

    And as for Clintons, I think, they likely have nothing to do with this. But also it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Clintons are well connected, long time political clan with deep connections throughout US and globally. Politicians unfortunately deal with sometimes dirty, behind the scene work. It won’t be surprising at all if they have some involvement here. But then again who knows. If you are curious to read about the list of suspicious deaths related to people dealing with Clintons, here is a 2016 piece from CBS Las Vegas: https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/
    Hmm. I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself. There’s endless examples of protocol and procedures looking good on paper but never actually being followed.

    Nonetheless it’s fun to entertain conspiracy theories as once in a rare while they will be correct. It’s also fun to be watchful of the tactics being used by conspiracy theory pushers. Verbal, language, twisted logic, fear, psychological, omission, inclusion if the irrelevant... Those pushing any conspiracy theory always employ many, many subtle but underhanded tactics to boost the perceived credibility of their pet theory.
    "I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself."

    The problem with this argument is this same facility housed El Chapo without any issue.

    And yes I agree with the spin tactics. On the other hand, one of the more potent counter-spins is to call anything that questions authority conspiracy theory. There was a saying, if it involves more than a few people, it can't possibly be a conspiracy. Then Catholic Church said hold my beer....

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    Rumors have it that Hillary was behind the Lincoln assignation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
    I know it’s ludicrous but that’s how it works. (Same for monthly jobs numbers, loads of other economic issues, numbers of terrorist incidents... you name it) Look at the nonsensical things Obama got blamed for just because he was president.
    I don't recall Obama getting blamed for much. I liked him his first term, second,not so much. He played golf a lot AND had his basketball court inside, where he apparently spent a lot of time.
    At least he wasn't slick willy Clinton, who spent his time in the oval office with Monica, and?

    He played golf a lot AND had his golf simulator inside, where he apparently spent a lot of time.

    Trump Installed a $50,000 Golf Simulator in White House: Report
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house

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    Another one of Trump's "Fine people"

    Ohio man who said AOC 'should be shot' has been arrested on felony gun charges, interstate threats

    Timothy James Ireland Jr. posted on Facebook that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ‘should be shot’ and said he would face no repercussions from the public backlash because, “Can’t fire me, my employer would load the gun for me.” The post made local news and the 41-year-old Ohio man found himself under investigation by the Capitol Hill Police, which eventually resulted in his arrest.


    From Roll Call:


    When Ireland was asked by Capitol Police Special Agent Lawrence Anyaso about the statement he made on Facebook, he said he was very proud of it, according to an affidavit supporting the criminal complaint. Ireland also said in that telephone interview that he always carries concealed guns, has guns for hunting and everyone knows he has guns, according to the affidavit.
    Police searched his home and found ammunition. Ireland is not legally allowed to own guns because of his criminal record.

    https://www.dailykos.com/?can_id=e65...t-thing-ever-2


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    U.S. attorney general appalled by 'serious irregularities' at Manhattan jail where Epstein died


    Uhhhh... Barr, that is under your watch as you are in charge of Federal jails. Maybe you should resign.
    Yup, this one is on Barr and Trump as it occurred under their watch. Its not like it’s just 5 or 6 months after the election.
    LOL. Yeah the president of the united states takes time to look after prisons, get real! LOL
    I know it’s ludicrous but that’s how it works. (Same for monthly jobs numbers, loads of other economic issues, numbers of terrorist incidents... you name it) Look at the nonsensical things Obama got blamed for just because he was president.
    I don't recall Obama getting blamed for much. I liked him his first term, second,not so much. He played golf a lot AND had his basketball court inside, where he apparently spent a lot of time.
    At least he wasn't slick willy Clinton, who spent his time in the oval office with Monica, and?

    He played golf a lot AND had his golf simulator inside, where he apparently spent a lot of time.

    Trump Installed a $50,000 Golf Simulator in White House: Report
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...in-white-house
    ...


    Tracking President Trump's visits to Trump properties

    “Presidents other than Trump incurred similar questions about travel costs. Much of what is known about Obama's travel costs was obtained by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which aggressively sought receipts through Freedom of Information Act requests. In October 2016, the GAO issued its own report breaking out the costs of one specific trip taken by Obama, finding that a trip to Chicago and Florida cost $3.6 million.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...r-lago-n753366


    Trump Golf Costs Top $110 Million -- More Than 1 Estimate For All Of Obama’s Travel
    Aug 3, 2019


    “Judicial Watch, a tax-exempt conservative group, in 2017 said that its tally of Obama’s travel costs based on documents obtained through Freedom of Information Act lawsuits had hit $105.7 million. That total, though, appears to include official trips of Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama, as well as some campaign-related travel that was partially reimbursed by the Democratic Party.

    Trump’s $110.3 million total in HuffPost’s analysis is for travel to and from golf vacations, and does not include official or campaign travel. ”...

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b0acb57fcd4eb8

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    Yeah, he kept his election promise. Right up there with "Mexico will pay for the wall"

    I liked the details from your link.

    During his campaign for president, Trump claimed that he would be too busy working to have time for any vacations at all. “I love golf, but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again. I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again,” he told a rally audience in February 2016. “I don’t ever think I’d see anything. I just want to stay in the White House and work my *** off.”
    When he is not golfing, he is eating KFC while binge watching 'Faux and Fiends"...
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    Don't forget, every time Trump visits one of his properties, the government has to pay him. And this is just for golf carts. They also have to pay for rooms, meals, etc.

    The Secret Service has spent almost $550,000 on golf carts to protect Donald Trump

    Since the Secret Service has to protect the president at all times, and a country club covers a lot of acreage, and Trump only rides in a cart when he plays golf, they have to find a way to keep up with POTUS. Since Trump won the November 2016 presidential election, then, the Secret Service has been renting golf carts to make sure they can protect Trump when he's on the golf course.


    More than two years since he defeated Hillary Clinton, Trump has spent 217 days of his presidency on a golf course. All but two of those days has been on a golf course he owns. (He played golf twice with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Japan.) Almost all of the days he's spent at his clubs have been at one of three places: Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Fla.; Trump National Golf Club Washington D.C. in northern Virginia; or Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in Bedminster, N.J.

    https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsn...-trump-111647/
    The more time he spends at his properties, the more money he makes. No wonder he can afford to give up his salary.

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    Trump administration overhauls Endangered Species Act protections


    The weakening of the act's protections is one of many moves by President Donald Trump, a Republican, to roll back existing regulations to hasten oil, gas and coal production, as well as grazing and logging on federal land.
    The changes would also strike language that guides officials to ignore economic impacts of how animals should be safeguarded. The original act protected species regardless of the economics of the area protected.
    "For animals like wolverines and monarch butterflies, this could be the beginning of the end."
    Well there goes a few species I guess. Taking in economic considerations into the continued survival of an endangered species is only slightly short sited. Hmmm I wonder how this will play out.

    "I know this is one of the last habitats for this species, but did you consider that this bird sanctuary would be more valuable and bring in more taxes if it as rezoned to allow a strip mall?"

    "I suppose you're right. Approved!"

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    Trump’s negotiating skills on display...

    The new Air Force One will cost the Pentagon $5.2 billion, according to the Defense Department's first formal acquisition report for the aircraft.
    In 2016, it was estimated that the new aircraft would cost $3.2 billion. A year later, President Donald Trump said he negotiated the planes' cost down by $1 billion.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/air-...billion-2019-8

    Wait... the price when UP?!
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Yeah but he promises that Mexico will pay for the new Air Force One...

    No, wait, China will gladly pay though the tariffs he is charging them....

    "Err.. the YUGE tax break means we have more money rolling in because the economy is growing at 4%, uh 3%, ohhh 2% and the debt is nearly gone as I PROMISED!"

    "Well, Hillary and those angry leftist socialist mobs are to blame for the cost going up."

    "Fake News, Fake News, Fake News! don't listen to the dishonest failing leftist media, BELIEVE ME!"
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  85. #9685
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    Lies 80 times trying to take credit for an Obama-era policy...

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a28697908/donald-trump-veterans-choice-lie-80th-time/


    But the really reassuring stuff came via the insane lying. As a champion bullshitter, Donald Trump is quite adept at convincing himself of something as he makes it up with the intent of convincing others. The truth is whatever you can get enough people to believe, including yourself. And it appears that the president has thoroughly convinced himself that he is responsible for a program that was signed into law in 2014.As a refresher, Trump was not president in 2014. His political career was primarily contained to suggesting the first black president was actually Kenyan, and thus illegitimate. (Not a racist bone in his body, etc. etc.) But the really astounding thing is he's told this lie 80 (eighty!) times and shows no sign of slowing down. He is an unstoppable force of fabrication, and The Lamestream Liberal Fake News Media has not exactly proven itself to be an immovable object. At some point, he says the same false thing so many times that people just give up.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    On several levels I think this guy’s warped thinking is the very definition of: unbalanced.

    ...and people are worried about those that are excessively politically correct, or members of the perceived “establishment”, etc. while guys like this seek out and even attain positions of power and influence.

    The last quote below is a reasonable statement but the preceding population comment is just downright wacko material in the context of his anti-abortion stance. It may even be technically correct that every line may have at some point experienced rape and incest. The guy’s totally clueless if not completely blind to what he himself is implying - he’s fighting the wrong f’ing battle! The intent to attack abortion rights by this whole approach... it’s an unbelievable lack of sense let alone common sense.




    U.S. Rep. Steve King implies human race wouldn’t exist without rape, incest - National | Globalnews.ca

    “King made his remarks as he explained his anti-abortion position ...

    “What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?” Kingsaid in remarks to 50 members of the Westside Conservative Club during the event in Urbandale. The newspaper posted a video of the event on its website.

    “Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that,” he added. ...”


    https://globalnews.ca/news/5766057/s...cest-comments/
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Don't forget, every time Trump visits one of his properties, the government has to pay him. And this is just for golf carts. They also have to pay for rooms, meals, etc.

    The Secret Service has spent almost $550,000 on golf carts to protect Donald Trump

    Since the Secret Service has to protect the president at all times, and a country club covers a lot of acreage, and Trump only rides in a cart when he plays golf, they have to find a way to keep up with POTUS. Since Trump won the November 2016 presidential election, then, the Secret Service has been renting golf carts to make sure they can protect Trump when he's on the golf course.


    More than two years since he defeated Hillary Clinton, Trump has spent 217 days of his presidency on a golf course. All but two of those days has been on a golf course he owns. (He played golf twice with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in Japan.) Almost all of the days he's spent at his clubs have been at one of three places: Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Fla.; Trump National Golf Club Washington D.C. in northern Virginia; or Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in Bedminster, N.J.

    https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnewsn...-trump-111647/
    The more time he spends at his properties, the more money he makes. No wonder he can afford to give up his salary.
    Makes the old $600 toilet seat fiasco look like a fiscal conservative’s dream come true.


    Only Trump could spend $550,000 on golf cart rides...


    Only the Pentagon Could Spend $640 on a Toilet Seat | The Nation
    What your tax dollars go towards at America’s defense headquarters.
    By William D. Hartung APRIL 11, 2016
    https://www.thenation.com/article/on...a-toilet-seat/
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    He loves golf carts so much he decided to wait for a ride in one at the G7 in Sicily while the other leaders walked 700 yards for the post meeting photo. Trump was last to arrive and was late.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...hrough-siciliy

    But he's the healthiest person ever elected president. His doctor said so and he got that info direct from Trump so it must be true.

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    During the summer recess, Donald Trump and Melania decided to take a short vacation on a yacht.

    After leaving port and anchoring in an undisclosed location, Trump wanted to have some private time with the First Lady so he sent his Secret Service and all the staff and crew ashore.

    Later that night, Trump slipped on the deck, went over the side rail and into the water. Trying to swim, Trump floundered in the water in his oversized suit and tie, calling to Melania for a rescue.

    Melania sprung into action and sent messages to the Secret Service, the Coast Guard and local police.

    A week later, the body of the President was found washed up on shore by the Coast Guard.

    During a press conference, reporters asked what was the delay in responding to the emergency to find the President.

    The Coast Guard, Secret service and the local police stated that the First Lady had placed insufficient postage on her three letters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Epstein case is one of the unusual cases where Occam’s razor suggests the supposed conspiracy theory as more likely than other alternatives. It is a series of low-probability events all happening at the same time. It might be mere incompetence of jail staff but as it stands a higher likelihood of something dirty. Of course we should wait for more details, but nothing wrong with being suspicious of the narrative of the events.

    It’s interesting to see how people work extra hard to convince themselves it is not logical to think some dirty hands are at work. Oh conspiracy. Yes, sure, Who know who did this, but it sure was helpful to a lot of powerful people.

    And as for Clintons, I think, they likely have nothing to do with this. But also it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Clintons are well connected, long time political clan with deep connections throughout US and globally. Politicians unfortunately deal with sometimes dirty, behind the scene work. It won’t be surprising at all if they have some involvement here. But then again who knows. If you are curious to read about the list of suspicious deaths related to people dealing with Clintons, here is a 2016 piece from CBS Las Vegas: https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/
    Hmm. I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself. There’s endless examples of protocol and procedures looking good on paper but never actually being followed.

    Nonetheless it’s fun to entertain conspiracy theories as once in a rare while they will be correct. It’s also fun to be watchful of the tactics being used by conspiracy theory pushers. Verbal, language, twisted logic, fear, psychological, omission, inclusion if the irrelevant... Those pushing any conspiracy theory always employ many, many subtle but underhanded tactics to boost the perceived credibility of their pet theory.
    "I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself."

    The problem with this argument is this same facility housed El Chapo without any issue.

    And yes I agree with the spin tactics. On the other hand, one of the more potent counter-spins is to call anything that questions authority conspiracy theory. There was a saying, if it involves more than a few people, it can't possibly be a conspiracy. Then Catholic Church said hold my beer....

    Autopsy finds broken bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s neck, deepening questions around his death
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f08_story.html

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    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snail View Post
    Epstein case is one of the unusual cases where Occam’s razor suggests the supposed conspiracy theory as more likely than other alternatives. It is a series of low-probability events all happening at the same time. It might be mere incompetence of jail staff but as it stands a higher likelihood of something dirty. Of course we should wait for more details, but nothing wrong with being suspicious of the narrative of the events.

    It’s interesting to see how people work extra hard to convince themselves it is not logical to think some dirty hands are at work. Oh conspiracy. Yes, sure, Who know who did this, but it sure was helpful to a lot of powerful people.

    And as for Clintons, I think, they likely have nothing to do with this. But also it is not out of the realm of possibilities. Clintons are well connected, long time political clan with deep connections throughout US and globally. Politicians unfortunately deal with sometimes dirty, behind the scene work. It won’t be surprising at all if they have some involvement here. But then again who knows. If you are curious to read about the list of suspicious deaths related to people dealing with Clintons, here is a 2016 piece from CBS Las Vegas: https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/
    Hmm. I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself. There’s endless examples of protocol and procedures looking good on paper but never actually being followed.

    Nonetheless it’s fun to entertain conspiracy theories as once in a rare while they will be correct. It’s also fun to be watchful of the tactics being used by conspiracy theory pushers. Verbal, language, twisted logic, fear, psychological, omission, inclusion if the irrelevant... Those pushing any conspiracy theory always employ many, many subtle but underhanded tactics to boost the perceived credibility of their pet theory.
    "I’d say the probabilities are on the side of bunglers/“the system” enabling him to kill himself."

    The problem with this argument is this same facility housed El Chapo without any issue.

    And yes I agree with the spin tactics. On the other hand, one of the more potent counter-spins is to call anything that questions authority conspiracy theory. There was a saying, if it involves more than a few people, it can't possibly be a conspiracy. Then Catholic Church said hold my beer....

    Autopsy finds broken bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s neck, deepening questions around his death
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...f08_story.html
    When he strangled himself with his own bare hands he likely decided to break bones to ensure that when he woke up dead he’d stay that way.

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    Tried to fake a suicide. Hilarious! Ahh maybe someone got to him and failed - or he himself failed.


    Jeffrey Epstein suicide: Basic facts elude investigators 5 days later - CNNPolitics

    “After the first incident, Bureau of Prisons officials determined that Epstein had tried to fake a suicide and they issued an infraction against him, which serves to put the event on his internal prison record, a person briefed on the matter said.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/polit...ons/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    When he strangled himself with his own bare hands he likely decided to break bones to ensure that when he woke up dead he’d stay that way.
    Kinda ignoring what the report said are we?

    Depending on how people hand themselves, you can even decapitate yourself.


    Here is what the report said

    Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.
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    At some point there has to be too many coincidences/unlucky circumstances to ignore though, right?

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    Epstein had lots of powerful 'friends' who wanted him silent. If someone knocked him off, they might have made the 'talk' even greater than if he lived.
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    Denmark Offers to Buy U.S.

    COPENHAGEN (The Borowitz Report)—After rebuffing Donald J. Trump’s hypothetical proposal to purchase Greenland, the government of Denmark has announced that it would be interested in buying the United States instead.

    “As we have stated, Greenland is not for sale,” a spokesperson for the Danish government said on Friday. “We have noted, however, that during the Trump regime, pretty much everything in the United States, including its government, has most definitely been for sale.”


    “Denmark would be interested in purchasing the United States in its entirety, with the exception of its government,” the spokesperson added.


    A key provision of the purchase offer, the spokesperson said, would be the relocation of Donald Trump to another country “to be determined,” with Russia and North Korea cited as possible destinations.


    If Denmark’s bid for the United States is accepted, the Scandinavian nation has ambitious plans for its new acquisition. “We believe that by giving the U.S. an educational system and national health care, it could be transformed from a vast land mass into a great nation,” the spokesperson said.
    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...m=TNY_Borowitz
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    Trump abandons plans to buy Greenland after being advised that the island is not suitable for golf courses.

    Trump complained that calling it 'Greenland' was 'Fake News' and the Dens were at fault for misleading him.

    Trump was further advised that the Democrats did not own Denmark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Israel bans Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib hours after President Trump takes to Twitter.

    This morning, Israel reverses their position and will allow Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib into their country.
    And now Rep Tlaib is refusing to go to Israel now that she is allowed.

    Just a vile political stunt by another vile politician.

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