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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    64 stories ? ... Holy cow !!
    That'd make it taller them Stantec, wouldn't it?
    Stantec is 250ish meters. This is 170 meters tall.
    Yeah, Stantec is the equivalent height as an 80 story building (250 metres).
    You mean "residential" building. The proposed building is less than the height for residential guidelines per the attached so LOW ceilings.
    http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...B/Default.aspx
    Emerald is 154 meters and 45 floors. This one would only be 16 meters taller and 21 floors. 66 floors should equate to about 225 meters.
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    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I'd like to see more towers Manulife wide and Stantec tall please.
    I'd much rather see more density in the core instead of sporadic 200+M towers.
    Edmonton is a very exciting place to be right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleppers View Post
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    That's pretty much what I'm saying, they have complied with all development and building requirements. The market has absorbed their product, therefore their product is just fine. If you think it's ugly, don't buy it.
    What I'm trying to say is that market absorption isn't an arbiter of whether its a good building/good design or not. Just because people manage to sell ugly condos doesn't mean that we as a city ought to require more.
    Do you work for the City or are you speaking on behalf of the rest of us?

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    Thought I've seen this design 100 times but I imagine Edmonton will screw it up and make it look bad... if only they try what Henriquez is going with the top floors:

    henriquezpartners.com/press/westbanks-joyce-to-bring-a-striking-design-to-its-neighbourhood/
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    ^ "Edmonton" isn't designing it, "Edmonton" isn't building it, how exactly will "Edmonton" screw it up? Or is that just a generalized sophomoric snipe at all the good people who live here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    ...Edmonton will screw it up and make it look bad...
    Way to support your city. Ever hear of the power of negative thinking?

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    Iím sure it will turn out fine. Imagine the addition to the skyline from Sask Dr. Right out front and center.

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    I stand in error, I meant it as "Edmonton" in quotations, Edmonton as a mentality, aesthetic, outward image. All to it for tall buildings with glass, but the bar is pretty mid-range, IMO. Only really concerned about the podiums on most buildings. Continue that 104th Promenade!
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    Proposed rezoning in Downtown

    Attend a meeting about a proposed rezoning in Downtown and an amendment to the Capital City Downtown Plan.

    Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2018
    Time: 6 - 8 p.m.
    Location: First Presbyterian Church, Wallace Room, 10025 105 Street

    This application is intended to allow development of two high rise towers with commercial uses at grade with underground parking. It will rezone parcels of land on the north side of 100 Avenue NW and between 103 and 104 Street NW, from (CMU) Commercial Mixed Use Zone to (DC2) Site Specific Development Control Provision.

    The meeting provides an opportunity to learn more about the proposal and provide your feedback to the City and applicant. Input gathered will be summarized in a report to City Council before they make a decision on the rezoning.
    ďYou have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.Ē - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwill211 View Post
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    I like it; distinctive yet understated
    Understated? Itís huge and dominating.
    I think he meant understated in design, not scale.
    Converting signatures 3rd building to rentals and selling it off as its been rumoured is not finishing your project.

    If langham can finish icon in one of the worst recessions we have ever seen why cant westrich finish their current project?? If we want to compare langham to westrich then let's look at the track record before saying langhams in a do or die position.
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    Especially when its compared to another builder who may be not finish one of their projects as planned...


    It is unlikely that the sale would close until after the project is finished, passes inspections, and achieves occupancy. Boardwalk, the buyer, has little or no interesting in finishing someone else's project. Why would you assume that Westrich is somehow walking away from Signature 3? My company's cheques are coming from the same place.

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    Falcon 1 & 2. interesting choice.
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    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axb View Post
    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.

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    from the PDF


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    Funny to see the Omega in the background of one of the images. Was this originally designed for 106 and 99 perhaps?

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    They both look to be 38 stories. Where did they come up with 64 stories?

    I can sort of see the comparison to One Bloor that some were making, but this is just a cheap copy of it (punched windows and stucco for the most part).

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    Completely nitpicking buy: first render was overlaid on top a winter-time photo which has snow on the ground and bare trees. They've spruced it up with green deciduous and people in shorts.

    This was what the Fox Towers should have been. No problem with stucco if done properly.

    But I wouldn't jump to conclusions. I think it's dark sprandrel as opposed to stucco here...think fancier version of Hendrix

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    Why are the massing renderings shown so short?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdmTrekker View Post
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    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.
    There's the whole national energy code thing, as well. None of the projects currently being built had to meet it, I believe, as it hadn't come in to force when permits were issued for them (some designed for it anyways). But long story short, it can be pretty difficult to get a cheap curtain or window wall envelope to perform sufficiently well enough without having to spend big dollars elsewhere on improving the building's performance.

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    The proposed mixed use development will provide up to 700 residential units, in two phases. The first phase will consist of approximately 300 units. Each phase will include an underground parkade access from the lane, with no servicing or vehicular movement on 104 Street, a planned pedestrian corridor.

    The two towers will sit atop a pedestrian scaled podium, no tallerthan 10 m. The podium will frame and address 104 Street and 100Avenue, with articulation along the street to create interest in thefaÁade wall and define residential and commercial entrances. Thepodium also breaks up wind channelling down the towers, andprovides a comfortable space at street level.
    https://www.edmonton.ca/residential_...sign_Brief.pdf

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    A planning application has been received to rezone the northeast corner of 100 Avenue NW and 104 Street NW. This proposal includes 10019 and 10027 104 Street NW and 10318A 100 Avenue NW.

    The applicant's name for the project is Falcon Towers.

    The proposed rezoning will accommodate the development of two residential towers on a mixed-use base structure.

    About The Application

    The proposed rezoning is from Commercial Mixed Use Zone (CMU) to a Site Specific Development Control Provision (DC2).

    This would allow for the opportunity to develop two high-rise towers:

    A 145 metre high residential tower (north) and a 175 metre high residential tower (south)
    A commercial base structure with public courtyard at ground level facing 104 Street NW
    Up to a total of 700 dwellings
    Underground parking

    https://www.edmonton.ca/residential_...street-nw.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
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    They're still using punched windows for this. When will they ever switch out of that?...
    There would be several reasons for continued use of punched out windows. One big reason may be that the contractor they prefer to use has its limitations - and successful installation of curtain wall is not in its bailiwick. I can't imagine its by preferred choice or thats its "cheaper" when Chinese curtain wall is cheap and getting cheaper.
    There's the whole national energy code thing, as well. None of the projects currently being built had to meet it, I believe, as it hadn't come in to force when permits were issued for them (some designed for it anyways). But long story short, it can be pretty difficult to get a cheap curtain or window wall envelope to perform sufficiently well enough without having to spend big dollars elsewhere on improving the building's performance.
    Wait...maybe I'm missing something here but where does it state that they will be using punched windows and stucco? I don't see any note to that effect and the renders certainly aren't indicative of that...Mind you the renders aren't wholly clear either

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    from the other PDF


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    ^These will be a nice addition to that area and the skyline.

    Hope we see this going ahead at some point in time.

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    Default I am good with this!

    Hope we avoid stucco, but don't mind the street level feel at all and I like the massing presented in this photo. I am happy to 'sign off' on this project, knowing that my signature does not mean anything!

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    Seems like a really large floor plate, but maybe it isn't perfectly to scale.

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    ^It does seem huge from the birds eye image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    ^It does seem huge from the birds eye image.
    At 175m it will be 3rd tallest and the shorter one either 4th or 5th. Impressive givens itís residential.

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    Compare the new towers to foxes, they appear to be similiar dimensions. As per height, 45 -55 floors is my understanding, so both should be taller than Manulife. I think it is pretty close to scale.
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    Wow

    Just build it omg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleppers View Post
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    Maybe... but we need infill and spread that around as much as height for the sake of height. Density is more important given that we have eclipsed a few previous limits.
    Amen. Do not get the weird obsession with super tall buildings. Iíd take 5 buildings 10 stories tall over one 50 storey any day.
    ya we wouldn't want any more super talls in Edmonton would we? and i'd take two 25 storey buildings over five 10 storey ones any day !

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    475ft and 575ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctzn-Ed View Post
    Compare the new towers to foxes, they appear to be similiar dimensions. As per height, 45 -55 floors is my understanding, so both should be taller than Manulife. I think it is pretty close to scale.
    I think your confused ... Fox is not as tall as the CN Tower per this diagram: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=5
    And you can see where 175m fits in as #3.

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    Renderings didn't mention on how many storeys on both towers at all.
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    49 and 64 were mentioned. At around 10ft per resi floor 575 ft (175m) could be possible if you say 58 floors and have 6 floors of underground parkade to add in. There could be mechanical floors with low ceilings too so itís possible. Same goes for the 475ft bldg. (145m).It may be 47 floors and 2 underground parkade. ??
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    Hmmm... now that we can see the render clearly, I feel much more cool on the project. The punched out windows look pretty bad. I really don't want another mediocrely designed set of towers dragging down 104. I feel we should be able to do better.

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    You're more than welcome to do better. Make them an offer.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    I like them. Start digging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_Lloyd View Post
    Hmmm... now that we can see the render clearly, I feel much more cool on the project. The punched out windows look pretty bad. I really don't want another mediocrely designed set of towers dragging down 104. I feel we should be able to do better.
    ? Again WHERE do you guys see definitive proof that there are punched out windows and stucco? I don't see that at all...

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    I don't know why we're arguing over stucco, this development (imo) looks like its years away in the making anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I don't know why we're arguing over stucco, this development (imo) looks like its years away in the making anyway.
    Not sure why you'd say that, I mean other than the fact that condo developments always take a while to ripen, but you make it sound like you think it's very far off ?

    Regardless of what you think of Langham designs, their marketing has been pretty effective and recent projects have moved thru the stages quite quickly. Not everyone can afford Sky so lower cost central condos are likely to be very marketable over the next few years, particularly with such a good location.

    As to why people fuss about the stucco even if it is a ways down the road, once design elements are in place and approved, upgrades are unlikely, hence the concern and comments.

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    I genuinely think that these look great and I’m excited for them to start.

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    The name is even growing on me. I think this will do well for that area, as the Freemason hall looks a bit derelict in that see of surface parking.

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    Just for reference for punched windows: http://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applica...Renderings.pdf

    Many buildings are naturally turning this way due to environmental and energy standards.
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrobotnik View Post
    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    I'm not a nerd gamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosepass2 View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    I'm not a nerd gamer.
    who care if you are or not theres nothing wrong with being one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Magnus View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues
    Haha!! I have issues? Listen here Darth Vader....I'm pretty sure everyone on here would agree that you are somewhat inept at conveying your thoughts to appear, i.e. this forum. Not sure why you take offense to what everyone says about you all the time......

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    To "paper" NOT "appear"

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    Quote Originally Posted by maclac View Post
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    ^ makes me think of.... https://i.imgur.com/wrUaiqf.jpg
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    ??? 2nd pic taken from a video game? A reference only nerd video gamers would understand?
    You have issues
    Haha!! I have issues? Listen here Darth Vader....I'm pretty sure everyone on here would agree that you are somewhat inept at conveying your thoughts to appear, i.e. this forum. Not sure why you take offense to what everyone says about you all the time......
    Actually I think heís accurate. Not everyone has to agree or disagree on points or understand each other on a message board, but youíre one of those narcissistic individuals who hasnít learned that you donít need to open your mouth on every little thing. Nobody cares what your opinion is of others, and I doubt you would speak the way you do if your C2E account were paired to your LinkedIn.

    What Iím trying to say is, trash talking others in anonymity when youíre a fully grown adult is a very pussy thing to do. So maybe you should just bite your lip instead of always embarassing yourself.

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    any predictions on the condo pricing?

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