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    Notley deserves way more credit than she is getting. She is 100times more Albertian then lying Kenny
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    Hey EDP! Nice to see you around these parts!

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    ^^ Tell that to the people in Parkland county.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    ^
    probably true enough.
    and itís probably as true for urban as it is for rural voters.
    Absolutely. Though for some reason, the joke about how partisans would vote for some ridiculously inappropriate candidiate if he ran under the right label always seems to come off best with rural conservatives. As far as I know, even right-wing southerners never came up with an exact parallel to "Yellow Dog Democrat" to hurl at liberals, even as they came up with lots of other abusive epithets.

    Maybe this is because there's more of a stereotype of rural people always supporting the same thing, over and over again, for all eternity? Whereas the stereotype of left-wingers tends to be that they're culturally alienated from the very people they claim to care about, hence "champagn socialist" and "latte liberal".

    Also, there's a stereotype that left-wingers are always bickering among themselves, so the image of them marching off to the polls like lobotomized zombies to support the same party year after year doesn't quite fit.

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    Bill C-6 had given Notley a lot of heat before her Government caved in under the pressure. Rural Alberta still remembers it and still will during election time. Parkland county residents still feels burned over the loss of half of their coal plants, which was a major employer. This will be expressed during the next election campaign. Notley might have 1 term left but it'll be a minority Government. The above 2, probably more will be the closing spikes in her coffin.

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    alta cuts deficit, adds 33,000 jobs in 12 months, while Sask falls behind

    Alberta has seen an increase of thirty-three thousand jobs in twelve months ending June 2018, and a two-and-a-half billion dollar decrease in its provincial deficit from March projections, as Saskatchewan falls behind with the worst job numbers since the early 1990s, and the highest provincial debt in the Province’s history.
    Economists have noted that the Alberta Government’s refusal to engage in an austerity approach has improved the position of the province, by maintaining employment, and keeping income tax revenue stable through the crash. In contrast, Saskatchewan’s austerity approach has seen a near-doubling of the unemployment rate, and the highest number of unemployed in Saskatchewan history.
    NDP Alberta’s debt-to-GDP number will sit at 8.7 percent in fiscal 2018/2019 – the best level in Canada. NDP B.C.’s debt-to-GDP ratio is the second-best in the nation at 15 percent.

    The conservative-governed provinces in Western Canada do not fare as well. Sask Party Saskatchewan’s debt-to-GDP ratio is 16 percent, while Progressive Conservative Manitoba’s sits at a whopping 34 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Bill C-6 had given Notley a lot of heat before her Government caved in under the pressure. Rural Alberta still remembers it and still will during election time. Parkland county residents still feels burned over the loss of half of their coal plants, which was a major employer. This will be expressed during the next election campaign. Notley might have 1 term left but it'll be a minority Government. The above 2, probably more will be the closing spikes in her coffin.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4326445/p...ta-ndp-budget/
    I don't believe she has another term left, for the reasons you citied, and because of more things to come from the NDP.
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    Despite the post above yours, there's much resentment to Notley's way she is handling her Government, especially in rural Alberta, and that's where my position is coming from. Its no secret that the majority of the voter base here in Alberta at least comes from Calgary pc blue and Edmonton Liberal red/orange. At least that's my interpretation. I might also add that Notley not only needs to contend with a growing in popularity with parties like the UCP and the Alberta party, the emergence of bill C-12. That being said moving forward, all the signs are there; Notley will have a minority Government in the next election. The only wild card here is the way she's handling the KM pipeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Despite the post above yours, there's much resentment to Notley's way she is handling her Government, especially in rural Alberta, and that's where my position is coming from. Its no secret that the majority of the voter base here in Alberta at least comes from Calgary pc blue and Edmonton Liberal red/orange. At least that's my interpretation. I might also add that Notley not only needs to contend with a growing in popularity with parties like the UCP and the Alberta party, the emergence of bill C-12. That being said moving forward, all the signs are there; Notley will have a minority Government in the next election. The only wild card here is the way she's handling the KM pipeline.
    There is no more pc party, except for one remaining rural MLA so I think I can fearlessly predict the PC's will not win any seats in Calgary in the next election. It is possible the Alberta party will pick up some of the former PC support, but I am not sure that will really hurt the NDP. I think rural support for the UCP will be strong and the NDP will hold on in Edmonton, leaving Calgary to be the battleground once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Despite the post above yours, there's much resentment to Notley's way she is handling her Government, especially in rural Alberta, and that's where my position is coming from. Its no secret that the majority of the voter base here in Alberta at least comes from Calgary pc blue and Edmonton Liberal red/orange. At least that's my interpretation. I might also add that Notley not only needs to contend with a growing in popularity with parties like the UCP and the Alberta party, the emergence of bill C-12. That being said moving forward, all the signs are there; Notley will have a minority Government in the next election. The only wild card here is the way she's handling the KM pipeline.
    There is no more pc party, except for one remaining rural MLA so I think I can fearlessly predict the PC's will not win any seats in Calgary in the next election. It is possible the Alberta party will pick up some of the former PC support, but I am not sure that will really hurt the NDP. I think rural support for the UCP will be strong and the NDP will hold on in Edmonton, leaving Calgary to be the battleground once again.

    Edmonton votes NDP, = civil servants..that's an easy call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Despite the post above yours, there's much resentment to Notley's way she is handling her Government, especially in rural Alberta, and that's where my position is coming from. Its no secret that the majority of the voter base here in Alberta at least comes from Calgary pc blue and Edmonton Liberal red/orange. At least that's my interpretation. I might also add that Notley not only needs to contend with a growing in popularity with parties like the UCP and the Alberta party, the emergence of bill C-12. That being said moving forward, all the signs are there; Notley will have a minority Government in the next election. The only wild card here is the way she's handling the KM pipeline.
    There is no more pc party, except for one remaining rural MLA so I think I can fearlessly predict the PC's will not win any seats in Calgary in the next election. It is possible the Alberta party will pick up some of the former PC support, but I am not sure that will really hurt the NDP. I think rural support for the UCP will be strong and the NDP will hold on in Edmonton, leaving Calgary to be the battleground once again.
    Edmonton votes NDP, = civil servants..that's an easy call.
    Far more people in Edmonton work in the private sector than for the provincial government. I think provincial government employees make up less that 2.5% of the city's population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
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    Despite the post above yours, there's much resentment to Notley's way she is handling her Government, especially in rural Alberta, and that's where my position is coming from. Its no secret that the majority of the voter base here in Alberta at least comes from Calgary pc blue and Edmonton Liberal red/orange. At least that's my interpretation. I might also add that Notley not only needs to contend with a growing in popularity with parties like the UCP and the Alberta party, the emergence of bill C-12. That being said moving forward, all the signs are there; Notley will have a minority Government in the next election. The only wild card here is the way she's handling the KM pipeline.
    There is no more pc party, except for one remaining rural MLA so I think I can fearlessly predict the PC's will not win any seats in Calgary in the next election. It is possible the Alberta party will pick up some of the former PC support, but I am not sure that will really hurt the NDP. I think rural support for the UCP will be strong and the NDP will hold on in Edmonton, leaving Calgary to be the battleground once again.
    Edmonton votes NDP, = civil servants..that's an easy call.
    Far more people in Edmonton work in the private sector than for the provincial government. I think provincial government employees make up less that 2.5% of the city's population.
    I read it was more than that, but they'll vote NDP...

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    Edmonton will be orange again. As orange as Trump is. haha. The Welcome to Edmonton sign should read 'The City of Orange."
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    Notley deserves way more credit than she is getting. She is 100times more Albertian then lying Kenny
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    You mean like the UCP candidate who just won in Innisfail that had worked on the Trump campaign? Appears he has no problems supporting the "grab them by the pussy" candidate and neither do the people that voted for him.


    In the final day before voting day, an investigation by Vice.com revealed that Innisfail-Sylvan Lake UCP candidate Devin Dreeshen, son of local Conservative Member of Parliament Earl Dreeshen, was a campaign volunteer for Donald Trump during the 2016 U.S. Presidential elections.


    As part of the investigation, Vice discovered a November 2016 photo of Dreeshen at an invite-only election night event in New York City sporting a red ĎMake America Great Againí baseball cap and raising a drink to Trumpís victory.

    http://daveberta.ca/2018/07/devin-dr...n-by-election/
    This is not someone who was appalled at Trump's comments or behaviour as he was there at the victory party wearing his MAGA hat.

    So yeah, there's people in Alberta who would vote for someone regardless of their behaviour and strictly because of their party affiliation.
    As opposed to supporting Liberal Prime Minister who as well groped a lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    You mean like the UCP candidate who just won in Innisfail that had worked on the Trump campaign? Appears he has no problems supporting the "grab them by the pussy" candidate and neither do the people that voted for him.


    In the final day before voting day, an investigation by Vice.com revealed that Innisfail-Sylvan Lake UCP candidate Devin Dreeshen, son of local Conservative Member of Parliament Earl Dreeshen, was a campaign volunteer for Donald Trump during the 2016 U.S. Presidential elections.


    As part of the investigation, Vice discovered a November 2016 photo of Dreeshen at an invite-only election night event in New York City sporting a red ĎMake America Great Againí baseball cap and raising a drink to Trumpís victory.

    http://daveberta.ca/2018/07/devin-dr...n-by-election/
    This is not someone who was appalled at Trump's comments or behaviour as he was there at the victory party wearing his MAGA hat.

    So yeah, there's people in Alberta who would vote for someone regardless of their behaviour and strictly because of their party affiliation.
    As opposed to supporting Liberal Prime Minister who as well groped a lady.
    Not one female liberal MP spoke about JT, they just shut up like a bunch of clowns..and felt uncomfortable. Had this been a PC, the media would have hung that leader out to dry

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    Playing devil's advocate here but how apologetic would you be if it was Jason Kenny facing a similar allegation? It can happen to any political or well known figure. Too bad we cant find any dirt on Mike Hudema
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    I think we'll see a downward revision on the projected deficit for the 2018/19 budget. My guess, the August revision will be around $7.0 Billion.
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    This was on CTV news last night, $7.0 B sounds more in line with that reality. Oil prices will drop when OPEC etc ramps up production.
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    Over the past month, WCS oil has been around $40-$50, with a recent drop to $38 US.
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